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[Catholic Caucus] The Church of the Vatican II Renewal Is on Life Support. Here's Why.
Fatima Perspectives ^ | August 4, 2017 | Christopher A. Ferrara

Posted on 08/06/2017 5:10:42 PM PDT by ebb tide

I always find it faintly amusing to see how “mainstream” Catholic commentators attempt to diagnose the obvious malaise of the Church that developed abruptly after the Second Vatican Council, at whose beginning Pope John XXIII was praising “the Church’s vitality.”

Take this commentary, for example, which laments that “[f]ew religious publications are willing to delve into the issues facing the Catholic Church today when it comes to declining attendance. Most priests do not want to recognize the fact that churches are now emptier today than ever before and parochial schools are closing at an accelerating rate.”

Why?  The author never really gets around to telling us.  He merely notes the signs of both social and ecclesial decline in America since 1960 — the very year in which the Third Secret was to be revealed, only to be suppressed by Pope John — without offering any definitive answer to his own questions about the causes:

The author makes a couple of weak stabs at an explanation, citing the women’s liberation movement for the decline in marriage and family and “no more nuns” for the decline in Catholic education.  But these are merely symptoms of an underlying disease.

Throwing up his hands, the author concludes: “The pews will remain empty unless the Catholic Church can address the issues blocking attendance. This will not be an easy task. The issues have to be addressed at the highest level in the Church.”

As we can see, our author is essentially clueless about why the Church has suffered a precipitous decline since Vatican II, correlated with a social decline reflected in the parlous state of the Catholic family in comparison with the immediate pre-conciliar period.  He refers merely to “issues” that “have to be addressed at the highest level in the Church.”

But what issues? Let me suggest a few:

In sum, the “issues” our author says must be addressed “at the highest level in the Church” reduce to one issue:  reversal of the ecclesial revolution that has convulsed her over the past half-century and the restoration of Catholic Tradition in all its integrity — liturgical, doctrinal and moral.  Failing that, the human element of the Church will continue to be the salt that has lost its savor and is being trampled underfoot by a hostile world with whose powers Church leaders continue their fatuous, pointless, and worse-than-useless “dialogue.”

But that reversal, it now seems clear, can come only through a dramatic divine intervention — literally a miracle. And that miracle will not come, we can be sure, until Russia is finally consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, an act that will undo the consequences of the epochal faithlessness of her leaders these past fifty years.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; vcii
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To: Arthur McGowan

I have no obsession with anything except to point out you are wrong from a biblical, historical, and common sense stand point.

To say that Jesus said to perform the eucharist and then God gave the apostles the gilt of tongues on Pentecost is not related is absurd. Was Jesus speaking Latin or Greek at the last supper to the apostles who spoke a different language? Even the first Eucharist was not in latin. So they went to the various countries and said the mass in Greek and then latin and then spoke the local language (which you acknowledges last night) it’s laughable to even propose that. What purpose did God have to have them do bi-lingual preaching to monolingual people in various places? Didn’t God want the word spread to many lands and people? Are you still defending the Greek-Latin scenario? What your defending is without foundation.

You are obsessed with supporting the Latin mass, which i don’t midd. but to pretend or ignore biblical and historical fact to make your point is either grossly ignorant or total denial. And after three explanations i must move on.

Amazing!


21 posted on 08/07/2017 9:40:54 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

I agree. I think that the real issue is what is happening at mass. Are we being led by the priest to reach toward God or are we having a meeting between the priest and the congregation. The former is the true orientation, the latter is the dangerous deviation


22 posted on 08/13/2017 6:37:24 PM PDT by RichardMoore (Without the protection of life all other right are void, dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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