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To: vladimir998
And what scriptural proof do you have for sola fide or sola scriptura?

It is written and Trust in the Lord are good proofs of sola scriptura and sola fide .

Scripture is the only inspired set of texts we have. No other writings can make that claim. To rely upon something else is to elevate them to the level of Scripture...or in cases of the RCC above Scripture.

To what did Jesus appeal to when He argued with Satan? Tradition? Nope. Scripture.

All you can do is say every time faith is mentioned it means ONLY faith (when there’s no evidence of that), and you ASSUME sola scriptura is true but have no evidence for it whatsoever.

No....for the Christian our faith will produce fruit. It's tangible evidence of our faith. Hence one of the reasons I post on these threads....to give an account of the Gospel.

Thus, it is self-refuting. We, on the other hand, are saying that what Mary does she does through God’s power. You can’t claim that for sola fide or sola scriptura.

A lot of people have claimed much in the name of God....doesn't mean it's right.

Actually sola fide and sola scriptura are through God's power....He's made it possible for both.

The mere fact that God tells us to come to Him through faith and that by grace we are saved through faith is evidence for sola fide.

Or maybe the 243 references to faith in the NT might be a strong indicator of sola fide. Granted not all references are of believing faith but a great number are. I'll have to do a more detailed review later.

Regarding sola scriptura, there are 76 results of "it is written" in the Bible. More are in the NT (60) which would not be a surprise.

There are another 73 references to "write" in the OT and NT with 35 in the OT and 38 in the NT. Again, another strong indicator of the appeal to the written word.

God has always left a written record of what He wants His people to do. Again, another strong indicator of the appeal to the written word.

The Roman Catholic church has zero Scriptural support of what they claim Mary is able to do.

Still, it never ceases to amaze me how much Roman Catholics seem to minimize the very book they claim to have given everyone.

79 posted on 08/02/2017 6:25:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“It is written and Trust in the Lord are good proofs of sola scriptura and sola fide .”

1) No where in scripture is it written that sola fide is an orthodox doctrine. NO WHERE.

2) Also, trust in the Lord in no way a proof of either sola scriptura and sola fide.

“Actually sola fide and sola scriptura are through God’s power....He’s made it possible for both.”

No, He did not. Neither heretical doctrine was ever part of God’s plan nor could they be since they contravene other parts of His plan. Both sola scriptura and sola fide were invented. Neither came from God, nor were they taught by the Holy Spirit in scripture, nor were they taught by the Church.

“Or maybe the 243 references to faith in the NT might be a strong indicator of sola fide.”

Nope. Hundreds of references to faith is exactly zero references to faith alone. Besides, as everyone knows, the only time faith alone is mentioned is in James 2 which does not commend it as a doctrine at all. That one non-recommendation of faith alone trounces all the non-mentionings of sola fide you can muster. What you’re doing here is simply not intellectually honest.

“Regarding sola scriptura, there are 76 results of “it is written” in the Bible. More are in the NT (60) which would not be a surprise.”

Which proves NOTHING about sola scriptura. Sola scriptura does not mean “it is written”. What you’re doing here is simply not intellectually honest.


93 posted on 08/02/2017 7:22:07 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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