Posted on 08/02/2017 2:07:44 PM PDT by detective
The Venezuelan Episcopal Conference (CEV) has publicly invoked the intercession of the Virgin Mary to free the nation “from the claws of communism,” in a clear reference to the regime of President Nicolás Maduro.
“Blessed Virgin, Mother of Coromoto, heavenly Patron of Venezuela, free our country from the claws of communism and socialism,” the CEV posted on Twitter this Sunday, complete with an image of Santa Maria and a Venezuelan flag.
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I don't quote from the Catholic Bible, so that quote doesn't appear in any Scripture I referenced. The perfect referred to in 1 Corinthians 13 is no mystery. It is a reference to the second coming of Christ.
It's not what I think about the definition of, 'prophecy,' - it's the established usage/definition that matters. Let's see what Strong's has to say:
◄ 4394. prophéteia ►
Strong's Concordance
prophéteia: prophecy
Original Word: προφητεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: prophéteia
Phonetic Spelling: (prof-ay-ti'-ah)
Short Definition: prophecy
Definition: prophecy, prophesying; the gift of communicating and enforcing revealed truth.
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We need the entire revealed word. God didn't throw together books for the sake of making the Bible thicker. Each book contains valuable teaching.
2 Timothy 3
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
In the following account from maek, Jesus is the brother of James and Joses, and his mother Mary is said to be their mother, too:
John 19
25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
The above scripture separates the two marys, they are not the same.
Matthew 27
56 Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joseph,[a] and the mother of Zebedee’s sons.
I believe most think of the mother of James and Joses and the wife of Clopas as the same.
But it is only assumptions although well fed.
Alpheus is said to be the father of both Levi and James the less.
And he is thought to be the same as clopas or maybe a former husband to the wife of Clopas.
Mathew 10
3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector;( James son of Alphaeus,) and Thaddaeus;
Mark 2:14
And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom,
Luke 24;18
One of them, named Cleopas, asked him, “Are you the only one visiting Jerusalem who does not know the things that have happened there in these days?”
It’s as if magnetic North shifts polarity three or four times in each of your multiple posts. Hard to tell which direction you are headed or might be headed. Difficult to receive your attempts to communicate when your FR RF transmitter is moving constantly from one side-band AM frequency to a UHF frequency and then to short-wave, based on some algorithm you thus far have kept well-hidden, even from your fellow sect members who remain mostly silent regarding your posts.
Do you have any idea at all what this forum thread was all about?
Do you pay ANY attention to what the posts TO you actually say?
The Scriptures are our rule of faith and practice. As such, God oversaw the writing to make certain it was error-free and exactly as He wanted it to be.
1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
The Scriptures are our rule of faith and practice. As such, God oversaw the writing to make certain it was error-free and exactly as He wanted it to be.
1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
I have never known this method to fail.
[Paul had to rebuke Peter over the matter of discriminating against Gentiles] yet they were different people from that time onward. Instead of arguing which was greater, they fulfilled the Great Commission, and most paid with their lives.
If they were controlled by the holy spirit there would not have been any disagreement between Paul and Peter.
Thank you for taking the time to collect all those references. I read each one. Although we see it differently, I still believe Mark is the most specific. Once more, the text:
In the following account from Mark, Jesus is the brother of James and Joses, and his mother Mary is said to be their mother, too:
Mark 6:3
Is not this [i.e.: Jesus] the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?” And they took offense at Him.
You said it doesn’t name Mary as the mother of James and Joses. From my POV, it does. The subject is Jesus the carpenter. The people who knew Him prior to His ministry identify Mary as his mother. Then they speak of his brothers and sisters, and name James and Joses in the list.
In context, why would they name His mother—Mary—and go straight to a list of his brothers if she were not their mother too? How did Jesus become their brother if not via the aforementioned mother?
You said it doesn’t name Mary as the mother of James and Joses. From my POV, it does. The subject is Jesus the carpenter. The people who knew Him prior to His ministry identify Mary as his mother. Then they speak of his brothers and sisters, and name James and Joses in the list.
She is never named as their mother, if she had any children other than Jesus it is never mentioned.
Another Mary is said to be the mother of James and Joses known as the brothers of Jesus.
Hang in there.
What is happening here is a conflation of the revealed, inspired word and the various actions certain individuals took. When it’s said that the Holy Spirit oversaw, guided and protected the recording of Scripture, it doesn’t mean that He prevented the writers from mentioning real-life disagreements. Those are included for our edification. For example, it’s helpful to see that even following a powerful vision in which God revealed to Peter that the Gentiles were no longer to be considered unclean, Peter slipped back into his old ways. It puts us on our guard. It heightens our awareness of Satan’s wiles, and of our need to never take our eyes off God and His guidance for our daily living.
The Holy Spirit would have ensured that the dispute between Paul and Peter was accurately and fairly recorded. He certainly would not have prevented Paul from mentioning it. It benefits us to see how it was handled.
If people could perfectly submit to the Holy Spirit every waking minute there likely wouldn’t be any disputes—or if there were they’d be handled in a very godly way. But even after salvation we sin. You can read about it in the First Epistle of John. The Apostle tells us that if we sin—a non-habitual, single-action slip-up, we can ask Jesus for forgiveness and receive it. Otoh, John points out that no one who makes a habit of continually sinning has come to know Jesus in the first place. To know Jesus is to love Him, and if we love Him we will keep His commandments.
I hope this helps?
‘She is never named as their mother, if she had any children other than Jesus it is never mentioned.’
The Mark passage indeed mentions it. To see this clearly, all we have to do is change the names.
Paraphrase:
Is not this Jeb the politician, the son of Barbara, and brother of George and Neil and Marvin? Is not his sister here with us?” And they took offense at him.
What do you think?
I’m unclear as to which of my posts you’re responding to. The link goes back to one of your own posts.
Apology extended. My intent was to respond to ravenwolf’s post 1210, I think. R2z
Nope...
Post 1211 it was.
But...let’s not dally on it.
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