[WrightWings]

So you admit she was a sinner. That's good. It's nice to see a little reality from Catholics once in a while.

Of course she was a sinner ---- Mary needed Jesus to Die on the Cross every bit as much as you and I did. I just believe that God Pre-Forgave her so that she could be sinless (in a State of Grace) in giving birth to our Lord.

That's all...

[RegulatorCountry]

I’m very intrigued with the predestinationist turn you guys are taking of late. Trying to suck in the apostate Presbyterians, too?

[MHGinTN]

And you are wrong, then. If the Bible tells you that God sent forth His born of a woman, born under the law, then your assertion is contradicting what The Word of God tells us. If Mary was sinless her whole life, then your muddled response is a tautology.

[metmom]

*Pre-forgiving someone does not mean they never sinned.

Nor did Mary need to be sinless to give birth to Jesus.

If Mary needed to be sinless to give birth to Jesus, then Mary’s mother needed to be sinless to give birth to Mary.

[metmom]

*Pre-forgiving someone does not mean they never sinned.

Nor did Mary need to be sinless to give birth to Jesus.

If Mary needed to be sinless to give birth to Jesus, then Mary’s mother needed to be sinless to give birth to Mary.

[Elsie]

Of course she was a sinner ----

We've GOT one boys!!!

Heat up the oil!!!

--Wannabe_Catholic_Inquisitor_Dude(I just LOVE the smell of heresy removal in the morning!!)