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To: ebb tide

If Bergoglio attempts to nullify or rescind Summorum, he will be widely disobeyed. He should be universally disobeyed.

Summorum—the document—may be “rescinded,” but the truth it articulates cannot be rescinded. Namely:

No Pope has the power to abrogate an ancient rite of the Church. This is why Pius V did not touch any rite older than 200 years, and it is why Paul VI never dared to abrogate the Missal of 1962.

Summorum does not give “PERMISSION” for the celebration of the TLM. It ANNOUNCES that no Pope or bishop can forbid it.


5 posted on 07/26/2017 10:45:24 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Thank you.


8 posted on 07/26/2017 10:49:51 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

We’re not giving up the Latin Mass, in our house. Period.

Because you’re absolutely right. He has no right to forbid it.

Punto, e basta.


11 posted on 07/26/2017 10:53:26 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Arthur McGowan

#5 Arthur McGowan - excellent reply.


16 posted on 07/26/2017 11:16:19 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
No Pope has the power to abrogate an ancient rite of the Church. This is why Pius V did not touch any rite older than 200 years....

So anything less than 200 yrs old is fair game?

19 posted on 07/26/2017 11:23:16 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Arthur McGowan
All Frankie had to do was continue the outstanding work of his two predecessors.

Maybe Our Lord is just around the corner.

29 posted on 07/26/2017 12:28:58 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
But it is only one type of mass according to SP. The OF is still the preference. What Benedict should have dine was do away with the OF.

But he's also a Modernist at heart.

49 posted on 07/26/2017 2:47:45 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Below is the ancient ritual of the church and it not the latin mass. Then latin mass contradicts the message of Pentacost, which is preaching in local or native tongues so the word of God/Christ can be understood.

I love the latin mass. i was altar boy in the 50s. But it is not THE ANCIENT MASS. It was long term but the mass in Europe in latin was aimed at keeping people ignorant and giving power to the clergy and rich people who were learned in latin. It meant a large portion of the people couldn’t follow the service.

Also in my opinion the pope can change the service anyway he wants a slalom as the eucharist is maintained as indicated at the last supper, also which was not conducted in latin.


And when the day of Pentecost[iv] was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other languages, as the Spirit gave them utterance. And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.[27]


144 posted on 07/27/2017 4:38:48 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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