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To: ealgeone
Funny...Paul didn't mention "Tradition" as being profitable or God-breathed. Only Scripture.

But he did command us to hold fast to tradition:

Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours. (2Thess. 2:15)
The simple reading of the text says it is Scripture, and only Scripture, that is inspired by God.

The Bible also shows that the gathered pastors of the church spoke with the authority of the Holy Spirit itself:

It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us… (Acts 15:28)
That same Holy Spirit continues to operate through the church founded by Jesus Christ.
99 posted on 07/17/2017 4:01:00 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
>>Funny...Paul didn't mention "Tradition" as being profitable or God-breathed. Only Scripture.<<

But he did command us to hold fast to tradition:

Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours. (2Thess. 2:15)

And what were those traditions?

The Roman Catholic has to read 2 Thess 3 to understand this in proper context.

6Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined manner among you, 8nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; 9not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you, so that you would follow our example. 10For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. 11For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. 12Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to work in quiet fashion and eat their own bread. 13But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary of doing good. 2 Thess 3:6-13 NASB

Paul explains what he means by the "traditions" he's talking about.

The Bible also shows that the gathered pastors of the church spoke with the authority of the Holy Spirit itself:

It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us… (Acts 15:28)

22Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, Acts 15:22 NASB

Yes...notice the leadership structure present. NO POPE!

Also notice that James is presiding over this Council.

You may also notice what they wrote to abstain from:

things sacrificed to idols

from blood

from things strangled

from fornication

The admonition to avoid blood repudiates the Roman Catholic claim about the wine turning into blood. Further, the Roman Catholic claim shows a lack of understanding about the blood sacrifice in the OT. The blood was never consumed...it was always poured out.

for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. Matt 26:28 NASB

113 posted on 07/17/2017 4:32:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Petrosius; ealgeone

And just what are those traditions that Paul commanded us to adhere to?

How do you know that they came from Paul?

How do you know that they were passed down faithfully for almost 2,000 years with no changes?

Please provide documentation to back up your assertions.


135 posted on 07/17/2017 5:27:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Petrosius
That same Holy Spirit continues to operate through the church founded by Jesus Christ.

I hope he's doing a better job than in the first Catholic churches noted in Revelation!


228 posted on 07/17/2017 7:49:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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