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To: Luircin; aMorePerfectUnion
That difference is between the two of us and has nothing to do with you.

The difference between you and aMorePerfectUnion illustrate the difficulty of getting a straight answer to the question of whether good works must accompany faith or whether faith covers even those who persist in sin.

443 posted on 07/19/2017 1:22:55 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

Let me make my statement little more blunt here, shall I?

I don’t care what you have to say, and the apparent attempt to foment discord is not appreciated. Butt out.


445 posted on 07/19/2017 1:31:43 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Petrosius

It seems that you have not given me a straight answer on why you interpret Paul to mean the exact opposite of his plain words.

It seems that you have not read the ‘straight answer’ that I posted to you.

It also seems that you don’t understand that non-Catholics don’t have one single theology, as unified as we are on justification by faith. (Then again, neither do Catholics. Cough Pope Frank cough.) On this thread, I vaguely seem to remember that you have severe disagreements with the Pope and disagreements with plenty of Catholics whose words were posted above who insist that you must obey the Pope to be Catholic.

Can’t give us the same courtesy to have our own conversations without trying to butt in?


446 posted on 07/19/2017 1:38:51 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Petrosius; aMorePerfectUnion

EVERYONE persists in sin.

Becoming saved does not mean we don’t sin any more.

It means the penalty has been paid for our sin and we are now in right relationship with God again.


458 posted on 07/19/2017 5:11:46 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Petrosius
The difference between you and aMorePerfectUnion illustrate the difficulty of getting a straight answer to the question of whether good works must accompany faith or whether faith covers even those who persist in sin.

How much 'sin persisting' can a Catholic DO before they get the dreaded 'RETAINED'?

Is there a LIMIT to the amount of Hail Marys that a confessional priest can impose on a 'faithful' Catholic??

525 posted on 07/20/2017 5:33:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
...the question of whether good works must accompany faith or whether faith covers even those who persist in sin.

There seems to be a confusion over what it takes to GET 'saved' and what it takes to STAY 'saved'.

526 posted on 07/20/2017 5:34:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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