“Christians don’t believe we have to go through Mary to get to Jesus as Roman Catholics do.”
One of the most false statements I have ever read on FR.
I’m a thankful convert to the Catholic Church. I know to a certainty I do not have to go through the Blessed Mother Mary to “get to Jesus”.
I forgive you for your false statement against our Catholic Church & encourage you to educate yourself on Catholicism before making more false statements.
One of the most false statements I have ever read on FR.
That statement has been made on FR and sourced from Catholic doctrinal statements about a thousand times in the last 10 years.
You are only replying to post #14.
Come back to us when you've gone thru #260 and let's see if you are STILL so adamant in your statements.
I forgive you for your false statement against our Catholic Church & encourage you to educate yourself on Catholicism before making more false statements.
Are you wearing a Brown Scapula?
Then it seems you must censor the uncensored devotion of revered "saints" in your church who explicitly or implicitly teach all graces come thru Mary, that no one comes to God except thru Mary, and the necessity of going to Christ thru Mary if one really wants to be blessed, that "No one achieves salvation except through you...No one receives grace except through you...no one obtains mercy except through you." "Thou are all-powerful in saving sinners.." "if you go to God through Mary, your work will become Mary's work, and consequently will be most noble and most worthy of God." “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus.." "that one alone is solicitous for us in Heaven. ".. who "alone art truly loving and solicitous for our welfare." "when she acts, it is also He who acts;...and through her alone does He dispense His favours and His gifts" "the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived..." "He is a debtor to you." "through Whom the Holy Trinity is sanctified..." "the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived...
"The union between the Immaculata and the Holy Spirit is so inexpressible, yet so perfect, that the Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin, his Spouse. This is why she is the mediatrix of all graces given by the Holy Spirit. And since every grace is a gift of God the Father through the Son and by the Holy Spirit, it follows that there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose." — Manteau-Bonamy, Immaculate Conception, 91; F.X. Durrwell, The Holy Spirit of God (Cincinnati: Servant Books, 2006), 183-185.
No one achieves salvation except through you...No one receives grace except through you...no one obtains mercy except through you."
"Thou are all-powerful in saving sinners.." "the greatest consolation that I receive from God... the light of my soul when it is enveloped in darkness...the hope of my salvation" ( St. Germanus (638-730), first bishop of Cyzicus, patriarch of Constantinople, various works; http://campus.udayton.edu/mary/prayers/SaintsPrayers2.htm)
"In "Glories of Mary" by Liguori, whose writings were declared free from anything meriting censure by Pope Gregory XVI (1839) in the bull of his canonization, he teaches,
Beware, chosen soul, of thinking that it is more perfect to direct your work and intention straight to Jesus or straight to God. Without Mary, your work and your intention will be of little value. But if you go to God through Mary, your work will become Mary's work, and consequently will be most noble and most worthy of God. - THE SECRET OF MARY, St. Louis de Montfort; http://www.ewtn.com/library/Montfort/SECRET.HTM
According to Eadmer (A.D. 1060–1124), an English monk and student of Anselm, “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus...[who] does not at once, answer anyone who invokes him, but only does so after just judgment. But if the name of his mother Mary is invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invoked her do not deserve it.” Through her “the elements are renewed, the netherworld is healed, the demons are trodden underfoot, men are saved and angels are restored.” — Andrew Taylor, “Three medieval manuscripts and their readers,” University of Pennsylvania press; page 173
And where can we find an advocate who is more earnest in the affair of our salvation, or who loves us more than Mary? "We acknowledge," says Saint Augustine of her, "that one alone is solicitous for us in Heaven. "...in order that our Lord may pardon us our sins, help us with His grace, free us from dangers, and relieve us in our wants, says, addressing in the words of an ancient writer: 'We know that we have as it were but one solicitous in Heaven for us, and thou art this one, so greatly does thy solicitude for us exceed that of all the Saints.'" - Liguori, Saint Alfonso Maria De'. (2013). pp. 181-2. The Glories of Mary. London: Forgotten Books. http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_Glories_of_Mary_1000665057/181" that God loved Mary more than all the other Saints together... "We acknowledge," says Saint Augustine of her, "that one alone is solicitous for us in Heaven." Mary could not be more closely united to God without becoming God. Saint Alphonsus de Liguori, The Glories of Mary, in Little Book of Saints by Christine Barrely; http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/marys-book20.htm the tenderness that Thou showest us in Heaven, in obtaining for us by Thy prayers so many mercies from God, obliges us to acknowledge that in Heaven we have but one advocate, and that is Thyself; and that Thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our welfare. - Alphonsus de Liguori, The Immaculate Heart of Mary is the Refuge of Sinners; Mary can be declared by the Church to be not only the “helpmate” of that Second Divine Person — Co-Redemptrix in Salvation, Mediatrix in grace — but actually “like unto Him.”...when she acts, it is also He who acts; and that if her intervention be not accepted, neither is His.... Her position as "the first of all creatures, the most acceptable child of God, the nearest and dearest to him," (Cardinal Newman); As Mother of God, says Lepicier, Mary contracts a certain affinity with the Father; · The pre-eminent resemblance which she bears to the Father, which has fitted her to pour out into the world the everlasting light which issues from that loving Father.... He has no children but by her, and communicates no graces but by her...and through her alone does He dispense His favours and His gifts. A Marian Synthesis; http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/general/msynthesis.htm Mary is the sealed fountain and the faithful spouse of the Holy Spirit where only he may enter...She is the sanctuary and resting-place of the Blessed Trinity...the holy City of God, the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived...her prayers and requests are so powerful with him that he accepts them as commands...because it is always humble and conformed to his will, the dispenser of all he possesses...What immeasurable greatness...Mary has authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven...God gave her the power and the mission of assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels who fell away through pride....all the angels in heaven unceasingly call out to her...They greet her countless times each day with the angelic greeting, "Hail, Mary", while prostrating themselves before her, begging her as a favour to honour them with one of her requests...The whole world is filled with her glory,... Moreover, we should repeat after the Holy Spirit, "All the glory of the king's daughter is within".... Whatever desires the patriarchs may have cherished, whatever entreaties the prophets and saints of the Old Law may have had for 4,000 years to obtain that treasure, it was Mary alone who merited it and found grace before God by the power of her prayers and the perfection of her virtues." — St. Louis de Montfort, in Treatise on True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin, miscl. http://www.legionofmarytidewater.com/docs/true.doc He who fills heaven and earth, and is the Lord of all, was pleased to be in need of you...you have made Him a debtor who gives being to all creatures. We are all debtors to God, but He is a debtor to you." (St. Methodius (d. 847), "The Greatest Marian Prayers")