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To: FourtySeven
I just gave you the proper understanding so at least you shouldn't have this problem anymore. Unless you only want to argue about it, instead of learning something true.

He can only continue to argue about it if others continue to argue with him about it. At some point, certain Catholics need to stop engaging certain posters on certain topics.

As it is this thread has been derailed once again by revisiting old Catholic vs Protestant debates with the same posters. Perhaps we could return to the original topic? I would think that this topic would bring more agreement than disagreement, no?

80 posted on 07/03/2017 2:45:47 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv

Yeah I’ve tried to impose such restrictions on myself for reasons as you state. Sometimes can’t resist but I agree 100% with everything you wrote here.


84 posted on 07/03/2017 6:32:46 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: piusv; Forty_Seven
As it is this thread has been derailed once again by revisiting old Catholic vs Protestant debates with the same posters. Perhaps we could return to the original topic? I would think that this topic would bring more agreement than disagreement, no?

The issue I raised is a valid one.

If this pope said "x" is ok Catholics have to obey it. You really have no choice. Reference Unam Sanctum.

Further, as time goes by, the Catholic leadership is made to "by in" to the statement of the pope or they're out of a job...or else.

This is how a lot of prior Roman Catholic positions came to be.

Priests were afraid to speak out against the RCC lest they lose their job....at least until Luther showed up.

It doesn't matter if the new belief contradicts the NT as we've seen with much of Roman Catholicism.

The laity is required to believe and does not have the right to question the RCC leadership.

90 posted on 07/04/2017 7:57:30 AM PDT by ealgeone (int)
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