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To: Luircin
If you believe, as you claim, the plain words of Jesus and Paul that we are saved by grace and not works, why are you preaching salvation by works?

Answer! They're NOT preaching "salvation by works," but the only way anyone can take Luther's rewrite of Christianity seriously is to constantly attack anyone who doesn't approve their absolutist hermeneutics so they won't notice they don't practice it themselves.

158 posted on 07/02/2017 10:29:52 AM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: papertyger

Uh huh.

Luther, living rent free in Romanist heads. I didn’t even refer to blessed Dr. Luther and you had to indulge in your two minutes of hate.

I have no idea what you mean by ‘absolutist hermeneutics,’ or I suspect I do but don’t care.

Jesus said the words plainly. Paul said the words plainly. Inform me why they didn’t REALLY mean what they spent chapters on chapters saying, multiple times in multiple letters.

I’ve answered your challenges about the seeming contradictions many times on previous threads. You have yet to answer mine with anything but rather pathetic gainsaying and whining about how much you hate Dr. Luther.


159 posted on 07/02/2017 10:37:04 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: papertyger
Answer! They're NOT preaching "salvation by works," but the only way anyone can take Luther's rewrite of Christianity seriously is to constantly attack anyone who doesn't approve their absolutist hermeneutics so they won't notice they don't practice it themselves.

Hey; I get 'attacked' because I don't bow at the feet of Rome's 'Mary' and believe it's 'promises'; but instead rely on the BOOK that early Rome produced.

I wonder why that is???

331 posted on 07/05/2017 3:57:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: papertyger
They're NOT preaching "salvation by works," ...

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The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos

332 posted on 07/05/2017 3:58:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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