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How Will The Media and Governments of the world explain The Rapture?
Billy Graham Evangelistic Association et al. ^ | June 19, 2017 | RightTackle 44

Posted on 06/19/2017 10:24:21 PM PDT by righttackle44

If and when the Rapture of the Church occurs and Christians are spirited off the face of the earth to Heaven, how will the secular governments and media explain the phenomenon? Millions of people will suddenly be gone from the societies and populations of the earth. Many who thought or said that they were Christians, will still be here.

No born-again Christians will be here.

The Billy Graham article is cited to provide information.


TOPICS: Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: endtimes; faith; rapture; secularity
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To: FreedomStar3028

FreedomStar3028,

In this context, I mean the last trumpet at the end of Rosh Ha Shanah on September 23, 2017 at 6:36 p.m. local time in Jerusalem. It is NOT the last (7th) Trumpet Judgment. The 7th Trumpet Judgment is still years away.

Blessings to you and your loved ones.

Dan :-)


181 posted on 06/21/2017 5:32:30 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Safrguns

Thinking of the Virgo constellation as a virgin, Cancer a crab, or Leo as a lion is from the Zodiac constellations. I don’t believe these were in the Bible. Orion and the Pleiades are, however, in the Bible (Job 9:9, 38:31, Amos 5:8). The zodiac was around in Roman times, so the Disciples could have known them. Since they mention other constellations by name, why would they have not refereed to it as Virgo in Revelation? Certainly not grounds to throw out the idea completely... but does give me pause and questions.

As for Nibiru, if there is a planet matching our rotation on the other side of the sun I do have good news: It should still take it a very long time to get to Jupiter. If true, our world governments wouldn’t be able to keep it secret once that started. For our current speed, it would take 6 years to get to Jupiter. Haley’s Comet took a little over a year to go from the other side of the sun to Jupiter’s orbit (1986-87). The fastest trip would be 43 light minutes - but that shouldn’t be possible for it within normal physics/circumstances.


182 posted on 06/21/2017 5:38:45 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: Yosemitest

Perhaps, it at least gave me some information to look over. I was looking at I Cor 15 earlier this week and was wondering if I’d messed up with the placement of a ‘rapture’. So I’ve been looking to see if the 7th Trumpet, being the last Trumpet in the series, is the same as I Cor 15’s last Trumpet.

Thanks again.


183 posted on 06/21/2017 6:09:13 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy; FreedomStar3028

You seem to be confusing maturity/sanctification with simple salvation. When Jesus evangelized Nicodemus about being born again, he compared it to the physical deliverance brought about by a look to the brazen serpent in the wilderness.

Numbers 21:
8 Then the Lord said to Moses, “[j]Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a standard; and it shall come about, that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, he will live.” 9 And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived.


184 posted on 06/21/2017 7:37:07 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Just mythoughts; EliRoom8

quote-You see, until one is deceived by another Jesus, all who rest in Christ today are Christians. The peril comes from the mass deception, because of false doctrines leads Christians to worship the fake Jesus.

Just mythoughts, to your point-

Where in the scriptures are the the doctrines that the real Jesus was born on Rome’s December 25- or circumcized 8 days later on Rome’s January 1st, or presented in the temple 40 days later, on Rome’s February 2nd.
Or killed on Rome’s Good Friday. Or in the tomb on Rome’s holy saturday. or raised on Rome’s Easter Sunday?

When the Word can show those to be false doctrines, what does that do to Rome’s Jesus?
If one is to accept your premise, then in one sense, there is another Jesus right now, correct?
and to be honest, most wouldn’t even know it.

Is that the kind of mass deception you are referring to?


185 posted on 06/21/2017 7:42:44 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Just mythoughts

>>That is the first tribulation, that has not been since the beginning of this flesh age.<<

Wacko exposition from Marvel Comics???

The first Tribulation which is far different than the midpoint of the 16th Tribulation in downtown Kyiv? This fourth AntiChrist will turn 12 just three years after learning to ride a bicycle?


186 posted on 06/21/2017 7:50:33 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Great post:
The AntiChrist will probably be able to duplicate some of the greatest miracles of Christ as well. His resuscitation at the midpoint of the Tribulation is an example — pseudo Resurrection.
I can’t see a pajama boy like the Pope being the false prophet or the AntiChrist. Those roles will be filled by super-dynamic, charismatic individuals.


187 posted on 06/21/2017 8:55:29 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: EliRoom8

My time is limited, see comment #170.


188 posted on 06/21/2017 8:56:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivx4M0FB2S4&t=3s


189 posted on 06/21/2017 9:02:02 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: VaeVictis
This might be of some use to your. studies:

190 posted on 06/21/2017 9:09:41 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Lil Flower
It's even blissfully better in full context:

"According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

18 Therefore encourage one another with these words. 1Th 4:15-18

So, I am encouraging you Lil Flower, with these words!
191 posted on 06/21/2017 9:22:11 AM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me covfefe in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: editor-surveyor

So believing Gentiles should move to Jerusalem and get ready to exit to Petra at the AD? Should we who are believing non-Jews also pray that our flight not be on a Sabbath? What should non-Jewish believers in the USA do when they see the Abomination?


192 posted on 06/21/2017 9:24:08 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Lee N. Field

12 x 12 x 1000.

Ought to be a hint.


Yep, only 12000 from each tribe were in the first resurrection.


193 posted on 06/21/2017 9:30:43 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: EliRoom8

Hey Eli, I have to agree with this analysis of Sept. 23rd’s events: https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/stars/what-will-happen-september-23-2017/

Even more so the ending. If this is thee sign of the rapture, what would it matter? Must I have my bed made and shirts folded? In truth, we should be ready for the return of the King at anytime. We should be witnessing to all, with in mind, that time is short.


194 posted on 06/21/2017 11:24:17 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: georgiegirl
That's great.
But WHERE is the Lord GOING on THAT DAY ?

Have you EVER given THAT ANY thought ?
195 posted on 06/21/2017 11:29:23 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: EliRoom8

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All who are out of covenant are “Gentiles.”

That includes Yeshua’s sheep, The House of Israel, many of whom live in the US.

The time is coming that all of Yeshua’s bride will be going to the land (Definitely not Petra) that is returned to Israel due to the Jubilee this fall.

That is why Yeshua specifically stated that he would not take his bride out, but take them to a place he prepares in the desert.

Dispensationalism, and Israel replacement theology are eternally deadly. None of this has anything to do with Judaism, which is just as far from the word as Catholicism. Its about his Kehillah/assembly; all of his remnant since creation.

There is no church, there are no “Jewish feasts,” its all about Israel, his bride.
.


196 posted on 06/21/2017 12:11:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: VaeVictis

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>> “In truth, we should be ready for the return of the King at anytime.” <<

This is a false statement.

As Paul pointed out to the Thessalonians, there are events that must happen first, and they have not yet happened.

There has to be a massive falling away, producing total apostasy, Satan must be cast out, and then the “Man of Sin” must be revealed.

He cannot be revealed yet, since that happens 42 months after Daniel’s 70th Sabbath begins. Look for that to happen in the spring of 2021.

This fall should produce the nuclear war that clears the land for the “lost sheep.”
.


197 posted on 06/21/2017 12:28:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

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>> “The
“Seventy ‘sevens’ of Daniel 9:24 are Jubilee weeks.” <<

There is no such thing as a “jubilee week.”

The first 69 Sabbaths were fulfilled by the end of Yeshua’s Earthly 70 Sabbath ministry.

The final Sabbath begins this year, which will be a jubilee also, the 10th jubilee since the Reformation.

‘67 was the 9th jubilee, and Jerusalem was returned. This year will begin the final return of land to accommodate the masses returning from East Asia.

Please note that the “Man of Sin” has not been revealed, nor has Satan been cast out yet.


198 posted on 06/21/2017 12:44:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Yosemitest
Well you got me there, as I don't have a clue what you are talking about. I just pray you too are comforted and encouraged by the coming of the Lord.
199 posted on 06/21/2017 1:18:17 PM PDT by georgiegirl (Count me covfefe in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: editor-surveyor

Firstly, I am no Preterist. Since we have that issue around here, I know its a quick guess. Secondly, yes there are things that have yet to occur before the Day of the Lord. However, you have missed the point I was making... and maybe I was not clear to everyone. There is much debate about when the Rapture occurs (or if there is a ‘secret rapture’).

Matthew 24:44 “Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”

Matthew 24:46 “Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.”

So what exactly is our mission here? That, is my message to everyone here. We should be witnessing to others and spreading the gospel (Great Commission, Matt. 28). If the September rapture was correct, then how much more so important is our task?


200 posted on 06/21/2017 1:42:10 PM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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