Posted on 06/19/2017 10:24:21 PM PDT by righttackle44
If and when the Rapture of the Church occurs and Christians are spirited off the face of the earth to Heaven, how will the secular governments and media explain the phenomenon? Millions of people will suddenly be gone from the societies and populations of the earth. Many who thought or said that they were Christians, will still be here.
No born-again Christians will be here.
The Billy Graham article is cited to provide information.
FreedomStar3028,
In this context, I mean the last trumpet at the end of Rosh Ha Shanah on September 23, 2017 at 6:36 p.m. local time in Jerusalem. It is NOT the last (7th) Trumpet Judgment. The 7th Trumpet Judgment is still years away.
Blessings to you and your loved ones.
Dan :-)
Thinking of the Virgo constellation as a virgin, Cancer a crab, or Leo as a lion is from the Zodiac constellations. I don’t believe these were in the Bible. Orion and the Pleiades are, however, in the Bible (Job 9:9, 38:31, Amos 5:8). The zodiac was around in Roman times, so the Disciples could have known them. Since they mention other constellations by name, why would they have not refereed to it as Virgo in Revelation? Certainly not grounds to throw out the idea completely... but does give me pause and questions.
As for Nibiru, if there is a planet matching our rotation on the other side of the sun I do have good news: It should still take it a very long time to get to Jupiter. If true, our world governments wouldn’t be able to keep it secret once that started. For our current speed, it would take 6 years to get to Jupiter. Haley’s Comet took a little over a year to go from the other side of the sun to Jupiter’s orbit (1986-87). The fastest trip would be 43 light minutes - but that shouldn’t be possible for it within normal physics/circumstances.
Perhaps, it at least gave me some information to look over. I was looking at I Cor 15 earlier this week and was wondering if I’d messed up with the placement of a ‘rapture’. So I’ve been looking to see if the 7th Trumpet, being the last Trumpet in the series, is the same as I Cor 15’s last Trumpet.
Thanks again.
You seem to be confusing maturity/sanctification with simple salvation. When Jesus evangelized Nicodemus about being born again, he compared it to the physical deliverance brought about by a look to the brazen serpent in the wilderness.
Numbers 21:
8 Then the Lord said to Moses, [j]Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a standard; and it shall come about, that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, he will live. 9 And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived.
quote-You see, until one is deceived by another Jesus, all who rest in Christ today are Christians. The peril comes from the mass deception, because of false doctrines leads Christians to worship the fake Jesus.
Just mythoughts, to your point-
Where in the scriptures are the the doctrines that the real Jesus was born on Rome’s December 25- or circumcized 8 days later on Rome’s January 1st, or presented in the temple 40 days later, on Rome’s February 2nd.
Or killed on Rome’s Good Friday. Or in the tomb on Rome’s holy saturday. or raised on Rome’s Easter Sunday?
When the Word can show those to be false doctrines, what does that do to Rome’s Jesus?
If one is to accept your premise, then in one sense, there is another Jesus right now, correct?
and to be honest, most wouldn’t even know it.
Is that the kind of mass deception you are referring to?
>>That is the first tribulation, that has not been since the beginning of this flesh age.<<
Wacko exposition from Marvel Comics???
The first Tribulation which is far different than the midpoint of the 16th Tribulation in downtown Kyiv? This fourth AntiChrist will turn 12 just three years after learning to ride a bicycle?
Great post:
The AntiChrist will probably be able to duplicate some of the greatest miracles of Christ as well. His resuscitation at the midpoint of the Tribulation is an example — pseudo Resurrection.
I can’t see a pajama boy like the Pope being the false prophet or the AntiChrist. Those roles will be filled by super-dynamic, charismatic individuals.
My time is limited, see comment #170.
So believing Gentiles should move to Jerusalem and get ready to exit to Petra at the AD? Should we who are believing non-Jews also pray that our flight not be on a Sabbath? What should non-Jewish believers in the USA do when they see the Abomination?
12 x 12 x 1000.
Ought to be a hint.
Hey Eli, I have to agree with this analysis of Sept. 23rd’s events: https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/stars/what-will-happen-september-23-2017/
Even more so the ending. If this is thee sign of the rapture, what would it matter? Must I have my bed made and shirts folded? In truth, we should be ready for the return of the King at anytime. We should be witnessing to all, with in mind, that time is short.
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All who are out of covenant are “Gentiles.”
That includes Yeshua’s sheep, The House of Israel, many of whom live in the US.
The time is coming that all of Yeshua’s bride will be going to the land (Definitely not Petra) that is returned to Israel due to the Jubilee this fall.
That is why Yeshua specifically stated that he would not take his bride out, but take them to a place he prepares in the desert.
Dispensationalism, and Israel replacement theology are eternally deadly. None of this has anything to do with Judaism, which is just as far from the word as Catholicism. Its about his Kehillah/assembly; all of his remnant since creation.
There is no church, there are no “Jewish feasts,” its all about Israel, his bride.
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>> “In truth, we should be ready for the return of the King at anytime.” <<
This is a false statement.
As Paul pointed out to the Thessalonians, there are events that must happen first, and they have not yet happened.
There has to be a massive falling away, producing total apostasy, Satan must be cast out, and then the “Man of Sin” must be revealed.
He cannot be revealed yet, since that happens 42 months after Daniel’s 70th Sabbath begins. Look for that to happen in the spring of 2021.
This fall should produce the nuclear war that clears the land for the “lost sheep.”
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Seventy sevens of Daniel 9:24 are Jubilee weeks.” <<
There is no such thing as a “jubilee week.”
The first 69 Sabbaths were fulfilled by the end of Yeshua’s Earthly 70 Sabbath ministry.
The final Sabbath begins this year, which will be a jubilee also, the 10th jubilee since the Reformation.
‘67 was the 9th jubilee, and Jerusalem was returned. This year will begin the final return of land to accommodate the masses returning from East Asia.
Please note that the “Man of Sin” has not been revealed, nor has Satan been cast out yet.
Firstly, I am no Preterist. Since we have that issue around here, I know its a quick guess. Secondly, yes there are things that have yet to occur before the Day of the Lord. However, you have missed the point I was making... and maybe I was not clear to everyone. There is much debate about when the Rapture occurs (or if there is a ‘secret rapture’).
Matthew 24:44 “Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”
Matthew 24:46 “Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.”
So what exactly is our mission here? That, is my message to everyone here. We should be witnessing to others and spreading the gospel (Great Commission, Matt. 28). If the September rapture was correct, then how much more so important is our task?
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