Are you sure that you want to continue to be like the young blacks that I went to high school with who when they were stumped by Truth could think of nothing better to say than "yo mama". The Mary card is just as infintile and ignorant, ney, more ignorant than what they said as they were not speaking of the one that God made special enough that Jesus could take His sinless flesh from that would hang on the Cross and gain us our Redemption. Please read the above again and realize that with your Mary bashing you're taking on the entire Trinity and insulting Them. Do you really want to do that??!!!
I would not want to be in your shoes or any other basher's shoes when you stand before Jesus in judgement and questions you concerning HIS MAMA. I can imagine that that is one subject on which He, like most of us, has no sense of humor. Hope you like being a post toastie.
In St. John 2:1~12 we see recounted the interaction between Jesus and His Mother, Mary, concerning the fact that the wedding feast was out of wine. (Think of the Wedding Feast of the Lamb.) The Blessed Virgin Mary in spite of Jesus' objection was able to convince Jesus that it WAS His time and so the miracle was performed by Jesus at Her request and Hers alone. If I ever wanted something from my father or even one of my brothers or sisters, I also wanted Mom on my side. Since you speak of Her as you do, what are the odds that Jesus is going to listen to you? Judgement time is not the time to need a miracle and need Her support. And remember God knows the end from the beginning so that as He was hanging on the Cross, He already knew how you were going to defame and denegrate the Woman that God the Father chose special from all eternity to be His Mother, and since you are an adopted child of God, (St. Paul says we are ALL children of adoption.) She is your Mother too. I will pray to Her for your forgiveness. Not only for you but all those like you. I will also pray to God that you will begin to use the good sense that He gave you and never again besmirch the good name of any one whom He has called "Blessed" including any of His saints. See St. Luke 1:48.
By the way, congratulations from Satan on the role that you have chosen in fulfilling Biblical prophesy namely Apocalypse 12:15: "And the serpent cast out of his mouth after the Woman, water as it were a river; that he might cause Her to be carried away by the river." As for me and my household consider this reply as our loving and dutiful attempt to do what it says in Apocalypse 12:16: "And the Earth helped the Woman, and the Earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth." We honestly do not mind being the ones mentioned in verse 17: "And the dragon was angry against the Woman: (God never called Israel, the Woman, only the harlot.) And went to make war with the rest of Her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." ( Can you honestly keep His commandments and have His testimony and speak of His Mother as you do? I don't know about you but I consider it a wholesome and Holy thing to fear the Lord as the Bible tells me to.)
We have read the Book, we know how it ends. We know we're on the right side with the Woman. How about you?
Show me where the Bible tells you to hold the Mother of Jesus up as a mediatrix of Salvation and the Grace of GOD, and we might have a conversation. But as it is, you are contradicting yourself repeatedly and writing paragraphs which are at the very least deceptive. God have Mercy upon you for these errors, I find your responses to be ... sneaky.
First, I am bashing the false Mariology of your Org. because it is a totally made up mythology with NO SCRIPTURAL foundation or support.
Second, Mary is not in the Trinity, so don't make yourself an open tool by making such a specious assertion connecting the Mother of Jesus to the Trinity as if she is empowered to act in God's stead or on the behalf of those praying to GOD through the Mary of catholiciism.
It is quite telling that a catholiciism steeped mind would infer a tagalong connection tot he Trinity for Mary, the Mary of the religion known as Catholicism.
Finally, this is so infantile as to be almost ALMOST laughable: "... when you stand before Jesus in judgement and questions you concerning HIS MAMA." Woman, if you are in fact a woman, I stand before Jesus every hour of evey day. I am born from above and His Spirit is in my human spirit as the earnest of my inheritance by His work and Grace. When I am at the Bema Seat of The Christ, in Heaven, I am trusting that my contending with the likes of your religious ilk will be a point of consideration. I also pray that your soul way be born from above in due course so that I can meet you in the clouds of our way back to The Father's House. While you are yet breathing there is still time ...
For those I have pinged to this response, I have pinged you because I don't want you to miss the post by this woman who presumes to instruct us and in the process exposes the roots of catholiciism which are cause of the effects we see in catholic apologists.
“We have read the Book, we know how it ends. We know we’re on the right side with the Woman. “
Context. It is not not Mary. It is Israel. Wrong woman.
Eisegesis.
Oh, absolute hogwash.
Nobody is bashing Mary.
Nobody is thereby insulting the whole Trinity as a result of their refusal to make Mary more than she was presented in Scripture.
I would not want to be in your shoes or any other basher's shoes when you stand before Jesus in judgement and questions you concerning HIS MAMA. I can imagine that that is one subject on which He, like most of us, has no sense of humor. Hope you like being a post toastie.
Our opinion of Mary has nothing to do with our salvation short of recognizing the virgin birth.
Since you speak of Her as you do, what are the odds that Jesus is going to listen to you?
Pretty good.
Judgement time is not the time to need a miracle and need Her support. And remember God knows the end from the beginning so that as He was hanging on the Cross, He already knew how you were going to defame and denegrate the Woman that God the Father chose special from all eternity to be His Mother, and since you are an adopted child of God, (St. Paul says we are ALL children of adoption.)
More unscriptural nonsense.
She is your Mother too. I will pray to Her for your forgiveness. Not only for you but all those like you. I will also pray to God that you will begin to use the good sense that He gave you and never again besmirch the good name of any one whom He has called "Blessed" including any of His saints. See St. Luke 1:48.
ALL believers are blessed in like manner as Mary.
The word is used to describe believers in Ephesians.Mary and Grace
The word grace used in this passage in Luke is used in one other place in the Bible and that is Ephesians 1 where Paul tells us that with this same grace, God has blessed us (believers) in the Beloved. IOW, we all have access to that grace and it has been bestowed on us all.
http://biblehub.com/greek/5487.htm
Luke 1:28 And he came to her and said, “Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!”
Ephesians 1:4-6 In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.
Greek word “grace”
charitoó: to make graceful, endow with grace
Original Word: χαριτόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: charitoó
Phonetic Spelling: (khar-ee-to'-o)
Short Definition: I favor, bestow freely on
Definition: I favor, bestow freely on.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 5487 xaritóō (from 5486 /xárisma, "grace," see there) – properly, highly-favored because receptive to God's grace. 5487 (xaritóō) is used twice in the NT (Lk 1:28 and Eph 1:6), both times of God extending Himself to freely bestow grace (favor).
Word Origin: from charis
Definition: to make graceful, endow with grace
NASB Translation: favored (1), freely bestowed (1).
You mean the SAME woman who was in PAIN of childbirth??
Genesis 3:16 Douay-Rheims Bible
To the woman also he said: I will multiply thy sorrows, and thy conceptions: in sorrow shalt thou bring forth children, and thou shalt be under thy husband's power, and he shall have dominion over thee.
The First Eve
The Second Eve. Pain. HMMMmmm...
Wait! I thought that SIN brought about the pain??!!??
No no NO!!!
Y'all have it BACKWARD!!!
I have seen; on these very pages of FR; that the 'woman' helps OTHERS!!
She gave us 15 promises to RELY upon!!!
And in such flowery language; too!