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First of all, ealgeone, I have addresses the matter of wearing sacramentals to Elsie in Can a Christian lose his Salvation? I won't repeat it all here except to reiterate no Catholic, that I know of believes that salvation is obtained by wearing something around the neck, just as so many non Catholics wear a cross around theirs. Remember, idols are things that one adores and that is not the case. If you wore a locket around your neck that contained a lock of your mother's hair, it reminds you of her and helps you to feel in your heart that she is always with you , for example.

I have heard an expression that has stayed with me: "Its not how many times you go through the Scriptures, but how many times the Scriptures go though you." No matter how new I am to this website is of no importance, what is important is that it is apparent to me that so many people on this website have not really dug with a sincere heart for the Truth, no matter what. No one wins this way except the devil himself . I have no doubt he is loving this whole-heartedly. How can any one come closer to God with all the mud slinging.

Here's a bit of history: "The Douay-Rheims Bible is a scrupulously faithful translation into English of the Latin Vulgate Bible which St. Jerome (342-420) translated into Latin from the original languages. The Vulgate quickly became the Bible universally used in the Latin Rite (by far the largest rite of the Catholic Church).

St. Jerome, who was one of the four great Western Fathers of the Church, was a man raised up by God to translate the Holy Bible into the common Latin tongue of his day. He knew Latin and Greek perfectly; he also knew Hebrew and Aramaic nearly as well. He was 1500 years closer to the original languages than any other scholar today, which would make him a much better judge of the exact meaning of any Greek or Hebrew word in the Scriptures. Besides being a towering linguistic genius, he was also a great saint, and he had access to ancient Hebrew and Greek manuscripts of the 2nd and 3rd centuries which have since perished and are no longer available to scholars today. St. Jerome's translation, moreover, was a careful, word-for-word rendering of the original texts into Latin."
Preface for The Holy Bible

I have seen several people bring up what they call the "Luther card." If one would look up the history of Christianity and the numerous branches and sects and their inceptions and the authors of those sects, they all, at some point in time came from Luther, especially the new doctrine of 'faith alone'. So all those roads lead to Luther. There is only One Truth. There can't be as many truths as there are interpretations.

Remember, idols are things that one adores and that is not the case.

And how many times have we been told the Catholic adores those idols of Mary?

Here's a challenge.

If, as you claim, you don't believe wearing the scapular or medal does anything for you.....throw them away.

Throw them away with the idols of Mary.

Will you accept the challenge?

If one would look up the history of Christianity and the numerous branches and sects and their inceptions and the authors of those sects, they all, at some point in time came from Luther,

This is demonstrably false. Waldensians, for example. History records others that were also persecuted by Rome.

Most new churches today have nothing to do with Luther. He may live rent-free in the heads of Catholics, but I've yet to meet a single believer who ever brought up Luther. I've never heard a sermon about Luther.

especially the new doctrine of 'faith alone'.

This sends you to the back of Bible Class for extra assignments. Here is your first:

Romans 4:
Abraham was, humanly speaking, the founder of our Jewish nation. What did he discover about being made right with God? 2 If his good deeds had made him acceptable to God, he would have had something to boast about. But that was not God’s way. 3 For the Scriptures tell us, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.”[a]
Clearly, God’s promise to give the whole earth to Abraham and his descendants was based not on his obedience to God’s law, but on a right relationship with God that comes by faith. 14 If God’s promise is only for those who obey the law, then faith is not necessary and the promise is pointless. 15 For the law always brings punishment on those who try to obey it. (The only way to avoid breaking the law is to have no law to break!)
16 So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham’s. For Abraham is the father of all who believe. 17 That is what the Scriptures mean when God told him, “I have made you the father of many nations.”[d] This happened because Abraham believed in the God who brings the dead back to life and who creates new things out of nothing.

Salvation is always by faith in God's Promises. It was before the church age and always will be by faith and not by works.

So all those roads lead to Luther.

Now demonstrated as false.

You've never had a class on fallacies, apparently, because you toss out category fallacies so freely! ... "If you wore a locket around your neck that contained a lock of your mother's hair, it reminds you of her and helps you to feel in your heart that she is always with you , for example." Not even in the same country! I don't expect my Mother to guarantee I won't be in 'pergatory' if I wear her picture in a locket around my neck. You cult has adopted several heretical assertions based upon deceptions which guarantee things a dead person cannot guarantee. If Elsie posts the list of specious guarantees from the catholic mary, will you at least read the list. You'll find several on that list which you have taken as guaranteed by the demigoddess ... which is blasphemous, endangering your immortal Soul.

I also notice that you have ignored my post to you on the word 'apostasia' (in 2 Thess 2:3). Are you just a catholic scholar, so you don't touch anything which has potential to refute catholic dogma?

The following are typical Catholic blasphemies. Can you see why they are called blasphemies?

Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.
Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.
Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.
Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.
Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.
Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.
Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.
Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.
Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.
Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

265 posted on 06/29/2015 4:12:30 AM PDT by Elsie

I won't repeat it all here except to reiterate no Catholic, that I know of believes that salvation is obtained by wearing something around the neck,

Oh?

Then this little do-dad may as well say, "Drink more Ovaltine"

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“St. Jerome,”
Funny you would bring him up and say just how God filled and smart he was, but he was against the apocrypha being canonical books to establish doctrine. He said they were good for history, but wasn’t inspired. Now that brings up a problem that either he was wrong or the pope was wrong because the rcc made them part of their doctrine.

“He knew Latin and Greek perfectly;”
Apparently not... because his translation was revised by pope clement viii in 1592 and then a third in 1598 and then another in 2001

“The Douay-Rheims Bible is a scrupulously faithful translation”

It’s not bad, but your religion doesn’t follow it so what does it matter.

“He was 1500 years closer to the original languages than any other scholar today, which would make him a much better judge of the exact meaning of any Greek or Hebrew word in the Scriptures.”

Corruption had already been introduced during the time of the apostles, so it doesn’t matter how close he was. The Devil has been present since the garden.

“new doctrine of ‘faith alone’.”

You claim the Bible talks to you then read Hebrews chapter 11 and tell me that it’s not faith alone.
It’s not a new doctrine, but instead what God had intended from the beginning.

“the new doctrine of ‘faith alone”

So would you consider Polycarp a “new doctrine”?

Polycarp 1:3
for as much as ye know
that it is by grace ye are saved, not of works, but by the will of
God through Jesus Christ.

Polycarp 9:2
being persuaded that all these ran not in vain but in faith and
righteousness,

Polycarp 12:2
Now may the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the eternal
High-priest Himself the [Son of God Jesus Christ, build you up in
faith and truth,

The original was “Faith Alone” brought to you by Jesus Christ, His Apostles, and protestants.

...A sign of Salvation...