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To: metmom

No, neither Hebrews nor the Catholic Church teaches what you claim. As long as there is life, there is the possibility of repentance and forgiveness.

A person who DIES in the state of mortal sin goes to Hell.

The fact remains that you have just condemned a book of the New Testament for teaching error.


84 posted on 05/31/2017 7:05:45 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Nonsense. Trying to get this thread erased also, priest?


85 posted on 05/31/2017 7:09:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Arthur McGowan

If someone is going to use that verse to claim that a person can lose their salvation, then they also have the problem of dealing with the fact that it says that if they fall away, it is IMPOSSIBLE to be brought back to repentance again.

That means that salvation is a one shot deal.

Once you fall away, and it doesn’t even say deliberately sin, but simply fall away, then you are lost forever.

And who doesn’t fall at some point in their lives?

And so are you now saying that the Catholic church does NOT teach that a person can fall from grace?


90 posted on 05/31/2017 7:25:22 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“A person who DIES in the state of mortal sin goes to Hell.”

Unscriptural distinction of sin.

The unbeliever has a sin nature and is unredeemed. He will go to hell.

The believer is redeemed and every sin has already been paid for. The righteousness of Christ is imputed to him.

He sins because he still has the life of Adam until he leaves this globe.

He cannot go to hell.


107 posted on 05/31/2017 8:09:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Arthur McGowan
A person who DIES in the state of mortal sin goes to Hell. say the teachers of ROME.
154 posted on 06/01/2017 4:50:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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