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Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?"
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Posted on 05/31/2017 1:41:09 PM PDT by ealgeone

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To: rwa265

No, Rich, CHRISTIANITY is based on JESUS. Catholiciism shows lots of signs of being based on Nimrod’s origins. But you knew that and still wanted to toss up a strawman/red herring ... that really is stinking and not like you.


681 posted on 06/05/2017 6:51:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

Now its the phenomena of the Dancing Baby animation on the old Ally McBeal show that needs deep explanation...I never got that..At...All!


682 posted on 06/05/2017 6:52:21 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: editor-surveyor

PS: and besides all that....$1.59 and my opinions will get me a cup of coffee at McDonalds. Such is the value of my opinions. I have no illusions otherwise!


683 posted on 06/05/2017 6:58:07 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: editor-surveyor

1Jn1:8 is very true. Since the audience are believers, it states the situations where believers do sin.

One common denominator of sin, though, is that whenever we sin, we aren’t sinning while in fellowship with Him.


684 posted on 06/05/2017 8:37:37 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: editor-surveyor

1Jn1:8 is very true. Since the audience are believers, it states the situations where believers do sin.

One common denominator of sin, though, is that whenever we sin, we aren’t sinning while in fellowship with Him.


685 posted on 06/05/2017 8:51:59 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: rwa265; metmom; boatbums; ealgeone; MHGinTN; Roman_War_Criminal
So to carry this analogy to its logical conclusion, Christianity is based on Nimrod being God the Father and the reincarnation of Nimrod is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God?

I would have answered two hours ago, but I had a two hour internet outage. No, I do not think that is a logical conclusion at all. The worship of Nimrod, is a fake, and a counterfeit religion, not Biblical Christianity. For everything that is true, Satan has a counterfeit. Nimrod's religion is not the only false religious system out there. I will leave it to your imagination, to figure out which false religions I am talking about.
Some rites, rituals, holidays, and things, (not all) are brought down from Nimrod's false religion, but then again, I will leave it to your imagination, to figure it out.
Nimrod was a bad dude. I don't know if he intentionally started a false religion, or if he used it as a means to control people. Either way, he was evil. I got no time for him. 🔥

686 posted on 06/05/2017 9:21:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Elsie

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Yep, I homed in on it with three posts.

I plan to challenge your record when I get into shape.


687 posted on 06/05/2017 9:23:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie
How about a good Limerick. 😆
688 posted on 06/05/2017 9:24:33 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Cvengr

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Of course.

We are not “in fellowship if we are violating any commandment with regularity, but anyone doing that has no need to be admonished; their sin is deliberate, as in Hebrews 6.


689 posted on 06/05/2017 9:28:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Little Blue Nun; MHGinTN; metmom; boatbums; ealgeone; aMorePerfectUnion
I disagree with most of your interpretations. You post scripture, which is fine, then I disagree with your conclusions. Since forum rules only allow me to ask you three times about something, here is the third and last time. Where are you going when you breathe your last? Heaven or Hell? Since purgatory is a town in Colorado, it doesn't exist outside Colorado. Don't wait till the end, and try to bluff your way into Heaven. It ain't going to cut the mustard. I don't know the answer to that question, since you ignore it. One thing I CAN say, is that wherever you choose to spend eternity, is entirely on YOU.
Now that is the third time I asked you about Heaven and Hell, so I cannot ask you again. Those are RF rules.
690 posted on 06/05/2017 9:48:32 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sin, regular or not, deliberate or not, breaks fellowship with God. Heb 6:4-6 refers to rejecting Him at the call.

Most sins (missing the mark) arise from our scarred souls haing faulty thinking processes developed and learned when we were fleshly or worldly. Salvation occurs in an instant. It takes time to sanctify our souls.


691 posted on 06/06/2017 4:28:46 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: odawg

Hebrews was written to Hebrews, not to Gentile Christians who might become Jews. It was written to convince the Hebrews of the “better” (the word used prolifically through the book) things in Christ. It was to pull Hebrews over the line into the sufficiency of Christ. It is not a treatise on Christians “losing” their salvation.


692 posted on 06/06/2017 4:43:53 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Mark17

This isn’t the time;
for another Elsie rhyme.
No matter how empty you seem.

I just cannot do it;
I’d never get through it.
Humor’s such a difficult theme.


693 posted on 06/06/2017 6:15:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: John Leland 1789

Thank you for that.


694 posted on 06/06/2017 7:00:38 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mark17

I would have answered two hours ago, but I had a two hour internet outage. No, I do not think that is a logical conclusion at all. The worship of Nimrod, is a fake, and a counterfeit religion, not Biblical Christianity. For everything that is true, Satan has a counterfeit. Nimrod’s religion is not the only false religious system out there. I will leave it to your imagination, to figure out which false religions I am talking about.
Some rites, rituals, holidays, and things, (not all) are brought down from Nimrod’s false religion, but then again, I will leave it to your imagination, to figure it out.
Nimrod was a bad dude. I don’t know if he intentionally started a false religion, or if he used it as a means to control people. Either way, he was evil. I got no time for him


It appears that I struck a nerve with my statement. For the record, I do not believe that Christianity is based on Nimrod being God the Father and the reincarnation of Nimrod is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God.

Nor do I believe that pagans would be allowed to worship Mary in the same way that they worshiped their goddesses. Do you or your Navigators know of any writings from the early church that supports this idea, or that even mentioned Nimrod?


695 posted on 06/06/2017 9:11:18 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Mark17

There really isn’t much in the bible on Nimrod other than he was a mighty hunter and apparently rose to the top of the heap by the time the Tower of Babel was conceived of as an idea. We think from educated inferences and from other extra biblical sources he was a pretty bad guy but there isn’t much in the way of info as to how he lived and how he died.


696 posted on 06/06/2017 10:17:21 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Cvengr

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Do we believe you, or do we believe the “beloved” apostle John?

I’m going with John, if you don’t mind.

John says that confession fixes the times that we slip up.

>> “Salvation occurs in an instant.” <<

Yes, but according to Yeshua, and Paul, that instant has not come yet; it happens at the Last Trump, in a twinkling of an eye, and judging by present fulfillments of prophecy WRT Jerusalem, it looks like the fall of 2024 is when that instant will come along, so if you’re not dead yet your salvation is dependent upon holding fast in faith.

You’ve already denounced the scriptures that make that plain, so save your keyboard.
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697 posted on 06/06/2017 10:18:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rwa265; MHGinTN
It appears that I struck a nerve with my statement. For the record, I do not believe that Christianity is based on Nimrod being God the Father and the reincarnation of Nimrod is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God.

I think you have it backwards. Biblical Christianity is not based on the worship of Nimrod. It is the other way around. The worship of Nimrod is a bastardization of the truth of Biblical Christianity.
As far as the Navs go, there are so many people affiliated with them, who have written so many different books and works, that I can't possibly keep track of them all, so I don't know for sure. I know there are lots of sources out there. The Nav motto, is to know Christ, and to make him known, so their authors probably concentrate on other issues. I would say, it's not bad for an old lumber yard worker. 😀👍 Later bro.

698 posted on 06/06/2017 10:27:32 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Elsie
At least you tried. I haven't felt much inspired to write any lately, but keep the faith. Maybe later we will. 😀 Anyway, where you are, it is probably early afternoon, but here it is 1:30 AM, so good night.
699 posted on 06/06/2017 10:33:55 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

The worship of Nimrod is a bastardization of the truth of Biblical Christianity.


So going back to post 604, where you wrote,

Do you suppose this worship or veneration of Mary, whatever they want to call it, is part of the paganism that was added, to attract pagans to the church? Is it related to Diana of the Ephesians? Doesn’t all this paganism originate with the worship of Nimrod and his wife? Didn’t the queen of Heaven thing originate with her, and after Nimrod’s death, didn’t she claim to give birth to a reincarnation of Nimrod? I believe this is paganism with a capital P, and was possibly brought into the church, to make pagans feel welcome.

Do you know of any writings from the early church that supports your assertion that this paganism was brought into the church? Or that even mentioned any pagan religions?


700 posted on 06/06/2017 11:56:51 AM PDT by rwa265
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