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Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?"
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Posted on 05/31/2017 1:41:09 PM PDT by ealgeone

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To: ADSUM
Ah a wordsmith? You always seem to want proof. What proof do you offer? Just an anti-Catholic bias (from one who is a baptized Catholic).

Scripture.

You are claiming that it's the Catholic church that Jesus meant.

If you are making a claim that something is a fact,then it's YOUR responsibility to prove it's true by providing the evidence, not for the other person to prove that your say so is not true.

Your opinion on its own, doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Verification is needs for it to have any credibility.

261 posted on 06/01/2017 2:26:02 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM; ealgeone
The Church that Christ founded is the Catholic Church which has a formal earthly structure established by Christ and which continues under His authority and protection.

How can that claim be valid when we've been told that the Holy Spirit does not guide the college of cardinals in the selection of the pope?

And He's protecting it just how?

The priesthood is infiltrated with homosexuals, the current pope is a flaming liberal and who knows if he ever believes in God, Catholics seminaries are pumping out liberal homosexual priests, Catholic laity is by and large liberal and pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage, and the list goes on.

Are those supposed to be examples of Jesus protecting His church? What exactly is He protecting it from?

262 posted on 06/01/2017 2:31:49 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM; ealgeone
The Church that Christ founded is the Catholic Church which has a formal earthly structure established by Christ and which continues under His authority and protection.

How can that claim be valid when we've been told that the Holy Spirit does not guide the college of cardinals in the selection of the pope?

And He's protecting it just how?

The priesthood is infiltrated with homosexuals, the current pope is a flaming liberal and who knows if he ever believes in God, Catholics seminaries are pumping out liberal homosexual priests, Catholic laity is by and large liberal and pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage, and the list goes on.

Are those supposed to be examples of Jesus protecting His church? What exactly is He protecting it from?

263 posted on 06/01/2017 2:31:52 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: kosciusko51
...why is it not in the next?

Oh?

Did someone claim it wasn't?

264 posted on 06/01/2017 2:34:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Do you agree with that?

What does the Book say?


265 posted on 06/01/2017 2:36:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Revelation 2 was written to the church body, not the individual believer.

Mom, the 'church' is made up of individuals.

How much yeast does it take?

266 posted on 06/01/2017 2:37:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Interesting because I don't believe in free will.

Was this before or after raising kids??


;^)

267 posted on 06/01/2017 2:39:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Keep reading...


268 posted on 06/01/2017 2:41:24 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ealgeone
Once again: What does the Book say??

 

  1 Corinthians 4:6
         Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying,
         "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

 

  2 Corinthians 1:13
       For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand. 

269 posted on 06/01/2017 2:44:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
They did a good job in growing His Church in spite of some heresies that led people away from God.

One...
True...
Church...

270 posted on 06/01/2017 2:45:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kosciusko51

Cain would find it biased.


271 posted on 06/01/2017 2:46:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Cain had issues...


272 posted on 06/01/2017 2:48:19 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ADSUM
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273 posted on 06/01/2017 2:49:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
Every other church traces its lineage back to a mere human person such as Martin Luther or John Wesley.

Nope...

Every other church traces its lineage back to a BRAVE human person who had the courage to stand up to the All Powerful Roman church and point out it's error!

Since Rome would NOT self-correct; the ONLY other thing to do was Scriptural:

COME YE OUT OF HER AND SHARE NOT...

274 posted on 06/01/2017 2:52:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kosciusko51
Does or does not man have unfettered free will in Heaven?

Keep trying.

Perhaps you'll be able to get a reponse about as authentic as a lot of the stuff Rome puts out.

275 posted on 06/01/2017 2:53:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

1 Corinthians 3:4-9 (NASB)

For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men?

What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one.

I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth.

So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth.

Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.

Mark 9:38-41 (NASB)

John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we tried to prevent him because he was not following us.”

But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me.

For he who is not against us is for us.

For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because of your name as followers of Christ, truly I say to you, he will not lose his reward.”


276 posted on 06/01/2017 2:56:15 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Just as Jesus had free will yet was humble and obedient to the Father.

I believe that those that gain salvation with God will keep their free will and be humble, prayerful and obedient to God.

As God loves us, He wants those that truly love Him to be with Him in Heaven.


277 posted on 06/01/2017 3:28:05 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Elsie

Is that a yes or no?


278 posted on 06/01/2017 3:29:14 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN

It’s my privilege. I tend to get longwinded, so it is good to know when someone actually reads such longs posts.

:-)


279 posted on 06/01/2017 3:33:03 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Elsie

That is not what Jesus would do!


280 posted on 06/01/2017 3:40:29 PM PDT by ADSUM
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