Posted on 05/31/2017 1:41:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?"
Answer: First, the term Christian must be defined. A Christian is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:89).
So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? Its a crucially important question. Perhaps the best way to answer it is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation and to study what losing salvation would entail:
A Christian is a new creation. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an improved version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is in Christ. For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed.
A Christian is redeemed. For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect (1 Peter 1:1819). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christs death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ.
A Christian is justified. Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are declared righteous by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and un-declare what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench.
A Christian is promised eternal life. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16). Eternal life is the promise of spending forever in heaven with God. God promises, Believe and you will have eternal life. For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be redefined. The Christian is promised to live forever. Does eternal not mean eternal?
A Christian is marked by God and sealed by the Spirit. You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are Gods possessionto the praise of his glory (Ephesians 1:1314). At the moment of faith, the new Christian is marked and sealed with the Spirit, who was promised to act as a deposit to guarantee the heavenly inheritance. The end result is that Gods glory is praised. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to erase the mark, withdraw the Spirit, cancel the deposit, break His promise, revoke the guarantee, keep the inheritance, forego the praise, and lessen His glory.
A Christian is guaranteed glorification. Those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified (Romans 8:30). According to Romans 5:1, justification is ours at the moment of faith. According to Romans 8:30, glorification comes with justification. All those whom God justifies are promised to be glorified. This promise will be fulfilled when Christians receive their perfect resurrection bodies in heaven. If a Christian can lose salvation, then Romans 8:30 is in error, because God could not guarantee glorification for all those whom He predestines, calls, and justifies.
A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and Gods gifts are irrevocable (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2).
Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a Christian has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. By their fruit you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God (Romans 7:4).
Nothing can separate a child of God from the Fathers love (Romans 8:3839). Nothing can remove a Christian from Gods hand (John 10:2829). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home (Luke 15:56). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home.
Jude 2425 further emphasizes the goodness and faithfulness of our Savior: To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joyto the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
Why would Adam want otherwise?
You can dream that you are right, but your presumption and perhaps your lack of understanding does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ. You and many others who believe that they can not lose their salvation may be in for a surprise upon your death. I do hope that you and many others find salvation with our Lord, but you must endure to the end. I do feel that it is wrong to give false hope to others.
Scripture teaches that ones final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, He who endures to the end will be saved (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:3146). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of enmity and rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell.
Regarding the issue of whether Christians have an absolute assurance of salvation, regardless of their actions, consider this warning Paul gave: See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but Gods kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off (Rom. 11:22; see also Heb. 10:2629, 2 Pet. 2:2021).
Ah a wordsmith? You always seem to want proof. What proof do you offer? Just an anti-Catholic bias (from one who is a baptized Catholic).
A founder - One who establishes. To take the first steps of building. The leader in establishing an organization based on principles with Christ as the Head and the members as the Body of Christ.
A Builder. One that builds, esp one that contracts to build and supervises building operations.
So did Jesus stay around to direct and supervise the building? Of course He sent the Holy Spirit to guide the Apostles and their successors to grow and build the Catholic Church by spreading the Goods News. They did a good job in growing His Church in spite of some heresies that led people away from God.
Jesus showed us the way as a humble obedient Son to the Will of the Father.
So we will be humble and obedient to the Father. Loving God and our neighbor.
Why indeed? Why do all sinners reject God? Ultimately, it is pride.
What a wonderful essay!
Person | Able not to sin | Not able not to sin |
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Adam (pre-fall) | ||
Adam (post-fall) | ||
Unregenerate man | ||
Regenerate man | ||
Man in Heaven |
Another beautiful essay! Thank you for your work ...
Every Christian believes that Jesus Christ established and sustains a community of faith, hope and love for all believers. This community we call His Church. The Church that Christ founded is the Catholic Church which has a formal earthly structure established by Christ and which continues under His authority and protection.
In concert with His redemptive act, Jesus did three things that established the framework of His Church. First, He chose humans to carry out His work. He appointed Peter to be the visible head of the Church. Jesus said to Peter, “You are Rock and on this rock I will build my Church.” (Matthew 16: 18) Jesus said “build,” as in to create a structure. Jesus built His structure on specifically chosen human beings Peter and the apostles.
Second, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles the power and authority to carry out His work. “Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.”(Matthew 16:19; 18:18) “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven, whose sins you retain, they are retained.”(John 20:23)
Third, Jesus gave Peter and the apostles commands as to what that work should be. At the last supper, He commanded, “Do this in memory of Me.” (Luke 22:19) He commanded them to “Make disciples of all nations” (Matthew 28:19), and to “Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature.” (Mark 16:15)
The early Church was structured in a hierarchical manner as it is today. We see in Acts, chapter 15 how the apostles and the elders came together under the leadership of St. Peter to decide the question of what was required of Gentiles. We also see how St. Peter was regarded as the head of the Church when St. Paul, “Went up to Jerusalem to confer with Kephas [Peter] and remained with him fifteen days.” (Galatians 1:18) There is no Scriptural evidence of independent local churches.
The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally. Every other church traces its lineage back to a mere human person such as Martin Luther or John Wesley. The Catholic Church can trace its lineage back to Jesus Christ who appointed St. Peter as the first pope. This line of popes has continued unbroken for almost 2,000 years.
God rules, instructs and sanctifies His people through His Church. Under her teaching office, the Catholic Church preserves the Word of God. She is the custodian, keeper, dispenser and interpreter of teachings of Christ. And she accomplishes this under the protection of the Holy Spirit.
https://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/churb1.htm
All but man in heaven are/were able to sin.
Even though it was not addressed to you in particular, you would do well to read carefully post #238 and ponder the TRUTH therein.
Agreed, but that is not the two topics. Which ones are “able not to sin” and “not able not to sin”?
Sorry, misunderstood. All are/were “able not to sin.” While man in Heaven has free will, he doesn’t sin. It is analogous to “Can God murder?”
Since God is omnipotent, He “could,” but it is not His nature. So for all intents and purposes, the answer is no.
As the soul in Heaven, “could” choose to sin, but because of the nature of Heaven, doesn’t.
I see you don’t understand. Think about it.
Adam pre-fall was able to sin and able not to sin. Post-fall, only the regenerate man has the same capabilities. The unregenerate man does not have the ability not to sin, since without faith, it is impossible to please God, and the faithless do not seek God. And in Heaven, man will not have the ability to sin.
Man’s will is fettered by his nature, and also by the Will of God. Man will always choose what his nature thinks is the right thing to do at that time.
I don’t mean to be rude, but why don’t you answer the question plainly, so that I don’t have to infer what you mean?
Does or does not man have unfettered free will in Heaven?
It’s that we are kept by God not our own efforts, which amount to works.
Again, the passages in Matthew 24-25 about enduring to the end are for those who are living through the tribulation period after the church has been removed from the earth.
Jesus is not talking to church age believers.
Context is your friend, even though it’s apparently a foreign concept to Catholics.
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