[ealgeone]

King Henry the Eighth funded the printing of the Bible in the English language, the Great Bible, the first Bible ever authorized for public use. Great Bbile Leaf Another Sample Leaf Of course, King Henry the Eighth did not do this because he had a change of heart, or because he was such a devoted Christian. He did it mostly out of personal pride, and to spite the Roman Catholic Church. King Henry wanted to divorce his wife and marry his lover, and the Pope refused to allow even the King of England to do this. So, King Henry just married his lover anyway, (later killing two of his many wives), and renounced the Roman Catholic Church, and proclaimed himself the head of both the State AND the Church (both King and “Pope” so to speak), and founded the Church of England, a.k.a. the Anglican Church.

And history can point to an even greater number of naughty popes.

Hey, there's even a Catholic on these threads that is currently trashing the current Pope.

[Jack Black]

You seem to be missing my main point. It is not that some historic Protestant leaders were bad people, rather it's that the Scripture itself - that you claim all true Christians believe is all that is needed has, itself, been modified on many occasions by the same people claiming it's the only guide needed.

It would be as if I said "The Constitution is the only guide needed for law in America" , but then continued "sadly the version we are used to is corrupted and the 2nd and 5th Amendments are hereby removed, along with some parts of Article 2."

Convenient, especially if the parts being removed or mis-translated concern things like Divorce that the secular-power responsible for the Versioning find inconvenient. (As was the case with both the English Bibles and Luther-edited Bibles.)

I think the Protestant reformation did, at least initially, draw attention to areas were the Catholic Church was very corrupt. And, as student of history I am quite willing to conceded that there were many corrupt popes.

What I'm not willing to concede is that Catholics are not Christian, that's a ridiculous and bigoted belief. To compare the Catholic Church to Mormonism is absurd. I would never say that Protestantism is like Scientology, because I am intellectually honest enough to admit that Protestants and Catholics are members of the same religion, just holding different views on things, and in my opinion neither is right about everything.

You are, sadly, continuing the great Protestant tradition of schism, breaking apart what should be one into two, three, twenty, two hundred, two thousand different entities.

If other Protestant sects disagree with your on other key doctrines (say predestination) do you also consider them Non-Christian, but an entirely different religion.

What Church did you grow up in? Have you changed from one sect to another as an adult? These are pretty simple questions which you seem unwilling to answer.