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To: af_vet_1981
Using your game Not a game; an honest question that was defaulted on.

Nope. You asserted...If the KJV translation was incorrect, the Protestants and Fundamentalists had a faulty English translation for almost four hundred years.

My counter to that was to make the same case against the Vulgate....an even greater time span of error and with far more theological consequences.

>>Using your game we can make a case that the official translation of the RCC has been in error since the time of Jerome.<<

Do you understand the English sentence structure and meaning here ? Yep.

It does not presume all the Early Church Fathers (ECFs) used Koine Greek, although I have not found one ECF yet who did not, but that those ECFs who used Koine Greek were the most likely to understand the holy scriptures correctly.

Now we have to figure out who you define as an ECF.

As you're so big on following the EO I'll ask again...are they correct about the pope and original sin and the IC? I mean, if you as you claim, the Greeks are right, then that means the RCC is wrong.

Are you prepared to say that?

167 posted on 05/27/2017 7:59:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
The one holy catholic apostolic church has historicity and the legitimacy of the keeping the Bible. The faith communities that devolved since the sixteenth century only have historicity back to the Catholics. If they assert their parents were illegitimate, they have impeached themselves and the faith once delivered to the saints.

Both the Eastern and Western Catholics have historicity back to the Apostles and the faith once delivered to the saints.

Both churches accept the decisions of the first seven Ecumenical Councils of the undivided Church. These are:

The Council of Nicea
The First Council of Constantinople
The First Council of Ephesus
The Council of Chalcedon
The Second Council of Constantinople
The Third Council of Constantinople and
The Second Council of Nicaea.
There is therefore doctrinal agreement on:

The divine and human natures of Jesus
Apostolic succession
The threefold ministry of bishops, priests and deacons
The broad structure of the visible church
The sinless life of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the honour due to her as Theotokos
Invocation of the saints
Acceptance of the seven sacraments
Confession to a priest
Use of icons in worship
Solemn celebration of the Eucharist and affirmation of its sacrificial nature as identical with the sacrifice of Christ
The Eucharistic bread and wine becoming the body and blood of Jesus Christ
Neither Church community subscribes to the Protestant teachings expressed in the five solae, 
especially regarding the teachings of salvation through faith alone (which these two communities understand as requiring no acts of love and charity) 
or of sola Scriptura (which they understand 
as excluding doctrinal teachings passed down through the Church from the apostles in the form of sacred tradition).

180 posted on 05/27/2017 8:26:24 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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