Posted on 05/27/2017 9:15:17 AM PDT by ealgeone
Question: "What is the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture? What does it mean that the Bible is sufficient?"
Answer: The doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture is a fundamental tenet of the Christian faith. To say the Scriptures are sufficient means that the Bible is all we need to equip us for a life of faith and service. It provides a clear demonstration of God’s intention to restore the broken relationship between Himself and humanity through His Son, Jesus Christ, our Savior through the gift of faith. No other writings are necessary for this good news to be understood, nor are any other writings required to equip us for a life of faith.
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Say what?
You boasted, “All the Early Church Fathers (ECFs) were Catholic.” Was Paul an early church father in the Catholic Church?
He certainly wasn’t Roman Catholic!
Granted, neither use the term "Bible". However, the Bible is what we call the collection of Scriptures. Substitute Scripture if that makes you happy in the phrase above.
In either case the sufficiency of the Scriptures to lead us to a relationship with Christ is more than attested to. < Do we have the Holy Spirit to guide us? Yes. All believers have this.
Do we all have benefit of Paul's teaching? No we don't. There is no collection of Paul's teachings, other than the writings in Scripture, available to us.
At the time 2 Tim 3 was being written the sacred writings Paul notes would have been the OT.
I don't think the Catholic wants to negate principle of reliance upon God's written word for the knowledge of how to have a relationship with Him.
It seems the Catholic is looking for the phrase, "use the Bible only"...or rather is not wanting it to be there to justify their use of uninspired "tradition".
If read in context the Bible is clear we are to rely upon the written word as the final authority of truth.
And please, let's not go down the road of does the Bible contain all history, math, etc. That sounds like a Tim Staples attempt at apologetics and fails at every level.
Who appointed YOU minister of "God would've?"
And you people think WE'RE the ones that mangle the Bible.
You continue to confirm it every day.
No.
You can include the entire Bible as a source (rather than the nebulous "Rome") and it still won't change the obvious play on words you rage against for the sake of your tortured, man-made, doctrine.
Grow up.
You're the last one on this thread that should say that.
I'm sure being blasphemous and profane has much to do with it.
If all you’ve got is variations of “I know you are but what am I,” we’re done.
I was about to say something along the same lines.
I agree the conversation with you is over.
Elsie, have you not gotten the part I said earlier about trying to find problems with my theology doesn’t correct the problems with yours?
Pointing out things that we do that don’t line up with YOUR made up doctrines doesn’t help your inconsistencies, and doesn’t hurt our doctrines except with those looking to show our doctrines don’t meet your standards, either.
From him, I want the name of the fallacy.
From YOU, I want a diagram.
And Jesus & Paul’s Bible consisted of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms and them alone. The New Testament did not exist!
I could have ask the same of you...? I base my OPINIONS on what I’ve seen Christ do in the scripture. He didn’t say to the jugs of water in one instance, you are spiritual wine there-fore the party goes will have to believe that it became real wine even though it tastes like water. Jesus never lies like that! Jesus never said “do this in “communion with me”...he said do this in “remembrance OF me”. No reference in the Bible of a “communion cup”! Shall I go on with further Catholic “mangleisms”?!
Jesus was fully able to change substance or increase substance if he wished. I pointed out that the disciples did not record such a change of substance during the Passover supper though they did report the change of water into wine at the marriage party. (the feeding of the 4 thousand and the feeding of the 5000 were also recorded by the disciples proving Christ’s ability to effect expansion and increase of matter). The fact that they did not record such a change of substance when they took the bread and wine from Christ was telling to me. Now does God view taking of the cup and wine in an unworthy manner very seriously, again the Bible says that such a person drinks “damnation” to himself. It is a spiritual transaction that is just as real to God as it would if the bread and wine were in fact actually transmuted.
And as for being a minister...guess what, we all are. Though some are leaders of churches and “ministers” in that sense, all Christians are ministers and gifted in some manner to “minister” to each other and to the world. Our leaders are to equip us for ministry as it says in Ephesians 4. We are to be ready to witness for the faith and do charitable works. So yes I am a minister and since you believe in Jesus, so are you! We are merely arguing over points that we should not argue over in front of the unsaved! So see ya around the soul harvest fields...fellow minister!
Um, actually it is the CATHOLICS who have been taught they cannibalize JESUS’s real body, blood, soul and DIVINITY. Now THAT is the height of arrogance!... And in a wheat wafer no less!
Why do you not believe the plain words of Scripture? Why do you believe "This is My Body" does not mean "This IS My Body?"
Have you gouged out your eye? Cut off your hand? Sold all your possessions?
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