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To: Mrs. Don-o; Elsie
Making the point even stronger, other "offspring" are identified as the community of believers, which includes, if I am not mistaken, you and me.

You seem to be avoiding my prior question to you.

I'll repost again for consideration.

46While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. 47Someone said to Him, “Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.”

48But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, “Behold My mother and My brothers! 50“For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother.” Matt 12:46-50 NASB

In this passage it's one of two understandings.

In v46-47 the Jews have identified His mother and His brothers. They understand this is His family.

The context can only mean one understanding. The brothers mentioned here are Mary's other children.

Now, if you want to try and say that in vv48-50 that brothers means all the followers of Christ and that He had no biological brothers then you have to say that all the moms following Him means Jesus had no biological mother...and you know who that means.

The Catholic cannot have it both ways.

The people in vv46-47 are either Mary and His brothers or they are not and only mean those who follow Him as noted in vv48-50.

Are you prepared to say that?

270 posted on 05/14/2017 6:22:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
The people in vv46-47 are either Mary and His brothers or they are not and only mean those who follow Him as noted in vv48-50.:

In the scriptures the relationships are in reference to Him, not her. There is no mention of other "children of Mary," "sons of Mary," or "daughters of Mary."

The only time blessed Mary has any other children is at the cross.

    One can ask
  1. Am I related to the Messiah as a mother or brethren too ?
  2. Have I been to the cross too ?
  3. Am I the disciple the Messiah loves too ?
  4. Is blessed Mary my mother too ?


While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

...

Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.


Matthew, Catholic chapter twelve, Protestant verses forty six to fifty,
John, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses twenty five to twenty seven,

276 posted on 05/14/2017 6:55:18 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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