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To: Elsie
We've been over this before.

"Knew her not until the birth of Christ" does not indicate or require that they had sexual relations afterward.

"She did not disregard her father's words until the day he died" does not require you to think she disregarded his words after he died.

And as you know, nobody is called a "son of Mary" in the whole NT other than Jesus Christ.

Making the point even stronger, other "offspring" are identified as the community of believers, which includes, if I am not mistaken, you and me.

Tagline.

234 posted on 05/14/2017 1:56:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The rest of her offspring: those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus. - Rev 12:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ever learning (and defending fables), never coming to a saving faith in God's Grace. Work work work, Catholic, you aren't striving hard enough to obtain ...

The BIBLE says Mary and JESUS's BROTHERS came to where HE was teaching and asked to have a word with HIM. But you choose to twist the plain meaning so it fits the Mariology demigoddess status your 'other religion' has fabricated. It's on you, GOD is not mocked.

264 posted on 05/14/2017 4:26:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“And as you know, nobody is called a “son of Mary” in the whole NT “

Not only that, no one is called Mother of God in the whole NT!

Thanks.


269 posted on 05/14/2017 6:11:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Elsie
Making the point even stronger, other "offspring" are identified as the community of believers, which includes, if I am not mistaken, you and me.

You seem to be avoiding my prior question to you.

I'll repost again for consideration.

46While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. 47Someone said to Him, “Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.”

48But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, “Behold My mother and My brothers! 50“For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother.” Matt 12:46-50 NASB

In this passage it's one of two understandings.

In v46-47 the Jews have identified His mother and His brothers. They understand this is His family.

The context can only mean one understanding. The brothers mentioned here are Mary's other children.

Now, if you want to try and say that in vv48-50 that brothers means all the followers of Christ and that He had no biological brothers then you have to say that all the moms following Him means Jesus had no biological mother...and you know who that means.

The Catholic cannot have it both ways.

The people in vv46-47 are either Mary and His brothers or they are not and only mean those who follow Him as noted in vv48-50.

Are you prepared to say that?

270 posted on 05/14/2017 6:22:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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