[MHGinTN]

" If God did not take a sex cell from Mary, Jesus would not be a descendant of David, would not have a human nature, and could not redeem human nature." Complete nonsense from Fedora

Was Adam human? How limited is your god if he must, MUST take a gamete from mary? How many women are in the lineage of Mary AND Joseph? The hoops catholiciism requires their god to jump through in order to serve their institution can get downright funny at times! And that doesn't even address the duplicity of Mary pledged to Joseph then consents to be 'god's wife in giving her genetics to God's use, violating her vows to Joseph. The god of catholiciism is not The Righteous God, if he can cause mortals to sin against his commandments. Think about it before you 'spittle fleck' (term from a Catholic priest on this very forum just the other day!) any further duplicity

[Fedora]

Adam was human, but Scripture does not call him a descendant of David. God did not have to take a gamete from Mary to become incarnate, but if he was to become an incarnate being who is specifically descended from David as the Scripture says, he did need David’s DNA--not as a limitation on God's power, but as a limitation of logical self-consistency, for God can do anything that is possible, but the self-contradictory is by definition not possible. And he got David's DNA specifically from Mary, since Scripture calls Mary Jesus’ mother. (Technically, he could have taken it from other cells in Mary’s body besides gametes, but I don’t think that changes the argument.) And I do not see how “thou shalt not commit adultery” became “thou shalt not lend one’s genetics to God.” You complained in another post that conception was a physical act, but the actor here is a spirit, not a human, which is the key point: you can’t have physical sex without a body, God’s nurturing of a cell into a mature human is not a physical sexual act and therefore by definition not adulterous.