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To: MHGinTN
Um, duplicity doesn’t bode well for your reasoning abilities. According to the BIBLE Mary was betrothed to Joseph thus vowed to be his, THEN the Angel appeared to her and she consented to surrogacy of ‘the holy thing’. Gestating a child is a physical behavior. BUT, consenting to surrogacy does not take from Mary a sex cell pledged to Joseph. Catholiciism insists that God took a sex cell from mary to make Jesus’s body and behavior mechanism. Is the god of catholiciism a defrauder, of Joseph? Try to straighten this Gordian catholic knot, without contradicting The Bible.

Resorting to insults doesn't bode well for your case. If God did not take a sex cell from Mary, Jesus would not be a descendant of David, would not have a human nature, and could not redeem human nature. But Scripture teaches He has both a human and a divine nature (Romans 1:3-4, etc.). This is precisely why the Council of Ephesus ruled against the Nestorian heresy. Feel free to review the debates that led to that decision if you want to see its basis. The arguments and related Scriptural commentary are laid out at length by St. Augustine in On the Trinity. I do not have more time to debate today; have a nice day, and enjoy the Lord's Day.

594 posted on 05/21/2017 6:02:21 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
" If God did not take a sex cell from Mary, Jesus would not be a descendant of David, would not have a human nature, and could not redeem human nature." Complete nonsense from Fedora

Was Adam human? How limited is your god if he must, MUST take a gamete from mary? How many women are in the lineage of Mary AND Joseph? The hoops catholiciism requires their god to jump through in order to serve their institution can get downright funny at times! And that doesn't even address the duplicity of Mary pledged to Joseph then consents to be 'god's wife in giving her genetics to God's use, violating her vows to Joseph. The god of catholiciism is not The Righteous God, if he can cause mortals to sin against his commandments. Think about it before you 'spittle fleck' (term from a Catholic priest on this very forum just the other day!) any further duplicity

597 posted on 05/21/2017 6:24:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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