I appreciate your concern for keeping the arguments Christian, but I do not have a problem with MHGinTN arguing for his position. If he thinks he is correct and if he thinks I am guilty of such a major error, attempting to point out my error is the charitable thing to do; just as I am trying to be charitable by arguing for what I believe to be true. Truth matters.
Was Mary already espoused to Joseph when the embryonic JESUS implanted in her uterus? If so, all of her genetic reproductive future was espoused to Joseph, so to take an ovum from Mary would defraud Joseph’s espousal. That you will not admit that says a lot about how closed your mind is due to Catholiciism dogma. By being gestated in Mary’s womb, Jesus was as much heir to David’s throne as having an adopting father in Joseph made Him heir through Joseph’s line.
I understand but you are wasting each others time.
It is like two fleas trying to tell each other what the dog thinks, each one convinced the other is wrong.
Then where is room for speculation??
If God did *not* take an ovum from Mary, what sense does it make to call Jesus a descendant of David, the Son of David (per Matthew 1, Luke 3, Romans 1:3, etc.)?