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The Bible explains why they are NOT the same.

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.


Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Isaiah, Catholic chapter seven, Protestant verse fourteen,
Matthew, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty three,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

1. A virgin would conceive and bear a son and call his name Immanuel
2. Mary is that virgin and Jesus is that son
3. Immanuel literally means "God with us"
4. Mary is the mother of Jesus
5. Mary is the mother of Immanuel
6. Mary is the mother of "God with us."

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A virgin would conceive and bear a son and call his name Immanuel
Mary is that virgin and Jesus is that son
Immanuel literally means "God with us"
Mary is the mother of Jesus
Mary is the mother of Immanuel
Mary is the mother of "God with us."

I don't think anyone is arguing against your conclusion. However, when someone changes the last point from "Mary is the mother of God with us" to "Mary is the mother of God" that the problem starts. The Son of God has ALWAYS existed, agreed? He has ALWAYS been God, agreed? His incarnation, taking on human flesh, was not when he became God, but when God became a man. The consternation comes from referring to Mary as the Mother of God - which omits that qualifier you used, Mother of God with us (whom we know is Jesus Christ). Nevertheless, there is no escaping the fact that a "cult of Mary" and Mariolatry didn't exist until men started calling her Mother of God. That title glorifies her and was not necessary for establishing the Deity of Jesus Christ.