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To: af_vet_1981
Post 61 shows the Jew prayed to "Father Abraham": are you now going to claim Abraham is not a departed saint in heaven ?

“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

Begger: dead (departed).
Abraham: dead (departed).
Rich man: dead (departed).

Your verse "proves" that dead people can talk to each other once they leave the earth.

Absolutely nothing in here about people on earth praying to departed saints.

106 posted on 04/29/2017 8:32:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Your verse "proves" that dead people can talk to each other once they leave the earth.

Absolutely nothing in here about people on earth praying to departed saints.


I can agree that it is "my verse." I understand your comment indicates you do not believe Abraham is a departed saint. I do not agree with that view.
108 posted on 04/29/2017 8:36:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Absolutely nothing in here about people on earth praying to departed saints.

How do we even know for sure, if these so called "Saints" are even saints? Some of them might actually be in Hell. We don't know for sure.

115 posted on 04/29/2017 11:23:51 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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