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1 posted on 04/20/2017 10:51:49 AM PDT by NYer
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Catholic ping!


2 posted on 04/20/2017 10:52:07 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Ping!


3 posted on 04/20/2017 10:52:23 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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As a traditional Catholic, I will believe that things will be shown to us in God's Time...and when they are shown, we will know they have come from God...

I have seen documentaries on this subject, a lot of different opinions on it...but I still feel, when God is ready, He will show us...kind of what He is doing now...if your listening...

5 posted on 04/20/2017 10:58:26 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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There was considerable discussion of The Shroud here in earlier days. After reading tons of articles about it, here and elsewhere, it became obvious to me that the “scientific” rejection simply made no sense. Whether or not one believes that it was the actual burial shroud of Jesus or not, it is very, very difficult to explain how it could have been a forgery. The likeliest explanation, taking all the facts into consideration, is, yes, the Shroud is real.

That was my conclusion. The matter is far too complicated to justify it here in a brief comment. I’ll just say that the “scientists” in question were about as scientific as the Global Warmers.


6 posted on 04/20/2017 11:01:36 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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While my Christian belief does not depend upon nor is much assisted by relics, nonetheless, the Shroud is an on-going amazement and mystery INDEED!

To imagine that there was someone(s) in Europe of the 1300s who was so skilled as to create an image on cloth that was essentially illegible without the photographic technology of 600 years in the future begs many questions for whom the skeptics provide almost no answers.

The old journalist rules of who, when, why, how and where; that just start the list. Artists and artisans of that era did not live in a vacuum, to live and work they had to have patronage, there was always works before and after that shows a pattern of learning and application of the same. The Shroud has nothing of this and there appears to be very little evidence of any ‘similar’ work that is not out-right fakery!


8 posted on 04/20/2017 11:16:34 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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Regarding “dating tests carried out in 1988 were seriously flawed.” A friend told me that he read an article sometime after the 1988 tests that one of the people, possibly a Sister, who was directed to snip off fragments of the cloth, clipped, not that Shroud, but cloth from one of the repairs that are evident on it...thus the carbon dating showed the date of when one of the burnt portions was repaired, NOT the date of the Shroud itself.

I think it is our Savior’s shroud, but if it is proven that it is not -— My faith in Jesus will not change.


9 posted on 04/20/2017 11:20:49 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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The first time I heard about it was in the late 1968-1969. I believe it was ESQUIRE magazine that had a critical article making fun titled...WERE YOU THERE WHEN THEY PHOTOGRAPHED OUR LORD, a take off on an old country and western religious song at that time.


12 posted on 04/20/2017 11:23:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ("You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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Bttt.

5.56mm


16 posted on 04/20/2017 11:29:34 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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When I was in college some freak, probably a Muzzie, wrote 'Shroud of Turin' in big black letters with an indelible marker in one of the men's room stalls. There was an arrow pointing down to the toilet paper dispenser.

Clueless I had to ask my physics prof what that meant, "Shroud of Turin". He explained in great detail to the whole class what it was. He thought it was real. That was my first introduction to the Shroud of Turin.

18 posted on 04/20/2017 11:37:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To those that believe, no explanation is necessary.

To those that do not believe, no explanation is acceptable (to them).


20 posted on 04/20/2017 11:45:34 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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Having always been fascinated by the shroud, I have read and watched everything I could about it.

There is NO DOUBT, that it is REAL! The image still can’t be duplicated TODAY!

Is it the image of Jesus? Who else would it be????

ALL attempts at denying it’s authenticity have FAILED!

The cloth, the weave, the coating, the herbs, the flowers, the spores, the blood, the location of stains corresponding to his hands and feet (spikes) and side (Holy Lance) and head (crown of thorns), the negative image infused in the shroud by God’s Glory, It’s preservation over centuries, it’s mention in the bible along with The Sudarium of Oviedo, the similarities of the two “shrouds”, the same blood type AB, spores from Palestine, the Shroud and the Sudarium covered the same Jewish face.

“Dr. Alan Whanger applied the Polarized Image Overlay Technique to the sudarium, comparing it to the image and bloodstains on the Shroud. The frontal stains on the sudarium show seventy points of coincidence with the Shroud, and the rear side shows fifty. The only possible conclusion is that the Oviedo sudarium covered the same face as the Turin Shroud.”

https://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm

IS THIS NOT PROOF ENOUGH????????????????????

1 Peter 3:15 (NIV)
But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

1 Peter 3:15 (KJV)
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Because Jesus rose from the dead, just like He said He would.

Without the resurrection, there is no hope.

That’s why it matters.


23 posted on 04/20/2017 2:11:21 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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I believe it’s real.


31 posted on 04/20/2017 6:26:21 PM PDT by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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32 posted on 04/20/2017 6:28:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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