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To: ebb tide

I do not guess what Jesus would say. I live following His actual words and what Jesus did say! It is not for me to decide what He would say now. It is not for anyone else living today to decide for themselves either and tell other people what Jesus would have said. Jesus warns that any who add or take away from His words risk losing their salvation. Jesus did not discuss such things as interplanetary space flight, smart phones, nuclear weapons, abortion, plastic and cosmetic surgery. Jesus gave us a moral compass. Jesus fulfilled the laws already on the books as under the ten commandments which can be applied to all sins in one form or another. Adultery did not go away and God further doubled down by saying you should not even covet your neighbors wife let alone sleep with her. It is as simple as that and all that ignore His word and encourage sinful behavior even if clergy are equally guilty of that sin.


21 posted on 04/13/2017 9:59:08 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Mat_Helm

I do not guess what Jesus would say. I live following His actual words and what Jesus did say!
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Wonderful and just where do you find His actual words? Jesus spoke in Aramaic. Where do you find his words?

I don’t want to be rude but what we have of the “words of Jesus” are actually the words of people who heard either the Apostles speak or heard people who heard people who heard the Apostles speak except for a few letters written by them. What we generally quote is from the Gospels which is basically what a variety of Christian reporters said they heard from people who knew or heard the Apostles. What we have of even THOSE word was translated from Aramaic into Greek and Latin and then maybe to the language you read in.

This is not a little point but a very large point. While I generally use Strong’s concordance to translate to the Greek I know of no book that goes back to the Aramaic. Very, very often using Strong’s I find that there are many translations of a particular word and they are rated in a percentage of probable veracity. Any of them could be right but the percentages are based on what most scholars believe is probably correct. I have never been a person with tons of respect for “most Scholars”. Scholars live in an isolated world and that isolation surely has an effect on how they translate.

We do not have the words of Christ but perhaps we do have the ideas as presented by Christ as translated a couple of times by people from a different time and understanding of us.

I get annoyed when people say the Holy Bible is their authority. I just think, “Yeah, right!”.

Don’t misunderstand me, I believe the Bible to be the word of God, especially The Old Testament since it still exist in the original Hebrew language. There is little or no Aramaic Biblical text that is 100% thought to be genuine. I call the Bible by the name of The Holy Bible because I believe it is Holy and contains words of Jesus Christ but I also understand the fallibility of translators. That there are contradictions in the Holy Bible does not make it less Holy, it just isn’t the perfect Word of God.


23 posted on 04/13/2017 11:02:35 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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