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To: boatbums; MHGinTN; Mark17
"And before him shall be gathered all nationsG1484: and he shall separate them onenation from anothernation, as a shepherd divideth his flock(s) ofsheep from the flock(s) ofgoats: . . ." (Mat 25:32 AV).
. . .
"Then shall the King say unto themnations on his right hand, Come, ye* blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdomon earth prepared for you* from the foundation of the world: . . ." (Mat 25:34 AV).
. . .
"Then shall he say also unto themnations on the left hand, Depart from me, ye* cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: . . ." (Mat 25:41 AV).
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Notes:

Strong's Number G1484

ἔθνος
ethnos
eth'-nos
Strong's Definition:
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe;
specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): -
Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

Thayer's Definition:
1) a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together
. . 1a) a company, troop, swarm
2) a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus
. . 2a) the human family
3) a tribe, nation, people group
4) in the OT, foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles
5) Paul uses the term for Gentile Christians
Part of Speech: noun neuter
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nation = a geopolitical and/or cultural entity consisting of many individuals incorporated and governed under its hegemony

* = second person plural

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These verses are from a parable of Jesus, a passage couched in figurative-literal language. The use by Jesus of "ethnos" is as a metonomy, specifically a synecdoche, in which the people of a cultural entity are represented by the word describing the whole (also used the same way in Mt. 28:19). The AV correctly and definitively represents the conjugation of verbs by using "thee, thou, thine" in translation of the second person singular, and "ye, you, yours" for the second person plural.

Furthermore, pronouns referring to nouns will in Greek be of the same number and gender. In verse 34, "them," (τοις) is dative case, plural, and may be masculine or neuter (in this case neuter). So it is more than one nation "on His right hand," that is, favored by Him. "Them" does not refer to individual persons, it refers to a plurality of geopolitical entities, probably not to cultural entities for reason that there will be no competitive "religion" after this judgment of nations. Likewise, in verse 34, "them" (τοις) also dative, plural, and neuter, refers to disapproved "national" entities, not persons.

What we are presented here is a judgment occurring just after the conclusion of the Great Tribulation, the consignment of two of the unholy trinity to the Lake of Fire (Rev. 19:20), the banishment of Satan to the bottomless pit (Rev. 20:1-3), but before the setting up of Christ's thousand-year earthly Kingdom (Rev. 20:4-5).

Some more conclusions may be drawn from this, but all that is being suggested here is that the judgment here is not of individuals per se, it perhaps is the identification of geopolitical entities just prior to, present during, or remaining at the conclusion of the seven-year Tribulation, whose geographical divisions and mechanics of government are already set up so that they will be acceptable and not confusing to the remaining unsaved humans at the inauguration of Christ's Kingdom of Righteousness and Peace.

That would provide a context of familiarity from which to proceed in revising the customs, habits, and languages of the people now subjugated to the earthly rule of Christ's Viceroy, His regal ancestor David bar Jesse.

In this diagram, the point noted by "1C" is the time of the Judgment of Nations:

The Mystery of the Grave and Hell photo Grave-Chart_zpsac979ca2.jpg

A fuller description of this chart can be found at:

The Kingdom of Heaven and The Kingdom of Go

259 posted on 04/14/2017 10:34:41 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Succinctly exposited. Sadly, catholic minds reject such TRUTH by sweeping it aside as ‘the interpretation of a non-Catholic. Catastrophically, that cuts the catholic mind off from coming alive in the Christ Who has given us eternal life and left for us His Word. But without a dispensational perspective (the Bible is laid out in dispensations) it is nearly impossible to differentiate the Bema seat from The Great White Throne of Judgment, a confusion as shown on this very thread.


260 posted on 04/14/2017 11:01:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: imardmd1; MHGinTN
So, the judgement of Mathew 25, is the judgement of the nations, prior to 1,000 year reign of Christ, and the Great White Throne judgement is at the end of the millennial kingdom? I think the bottom line is, no one wants to be a goat 🐐 but God doesn't have to ask any of them what they believe. He already knows who are His and who are not.
264 posted on 04/14/2017 2:01:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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To: imardmd1
These verses are from a parable of Jesus, a passage couched in figurative-literal language.

And it's just ONE of a bunch of parables that were recorded one after the other.

302 posted on 04/15/2017 1:32:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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