[amorphous]

So you are presuming that because something isn’t outright contradicted, such as the ages of Mary and Joseph, that they should be accepted as true?

Yup, but that's not a presumption, since texts exist, one dated to the 2nd century, before the establishment of the Church in Rome, which gives the ages of Mary and Joseph in startling precision.

If that panics or rocks your world, I'm sorry for you. But I'm going with an ancient, written text, over someone(s) opinion or assumptions not based on anything but handed down doctrine.

You and your friends are welcome to believe whatever you wish, but you're not going to change my mind. Nor even your admittedly "harsh treatment". I only asked for contradicting evidence from scripture, not a treatise on the evils of Catholicism, Judaism, Mormonism, or graphic clips from horror films.

Despite all of the vitriol you and your friends have drummed up, not one verse have you presented that contradicts the ages of Mary and Joseph as given in the texts I listed at the start of this most horrible example of "Christian" love, I've seen in quite some time.

With that, I take my leave from your wonderful thread, even more confident in the story of Mary and Joseph, as told in the Infancy Gospels, and in the virtuousness of Mary, which I firmly believe she maintained all her life.

God bless her! What a wonderful, priceless gift she brought forth for ALL mankind.

[ealgeone]

Yet those texts you’re hanging onto as accurate were somehow so critical to the rcc they did not include them as canon at Trent. It is you, sir, who is building on sandy soil.

[Elsie]

With that, I take my leave from your wonderful thread,

AGAIN??

[metmom]

It neither panics me nor rocks my world.

There’s no evidence that it’s true and for someone to pass it off as truth or Scripture is wrong and I will speak out against it.

What rocks some people’s world is the thought that Joseph and Mary had a normal marriage and had sex within it and produced offspring, all totally supported by actual Scripture.

So if virginity is so virtuous, then all the rest of us folks who are married and enjoy it are not virtuous, eh?

Just a bunch of carnal heathens for enjoying what God blessed mankind with.

[Mark17]

the story of Mary and Joseph, as told in the Infancy Gospels, and in the virtuousness of Mary, which I firmly believe she maintained all her life.

I have never heard the term "infancy gospel" till today. I believe Mary WAS virtuous her entire life. I am sure all her many children, her sons and daughters by her husband Joseph, thought so too. If you disagree with that, so be it. You may believe whatever you like. I just don't believe the same way you do.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“And in the virtuousness of Mary, which I firmly believe she maintained all her life.”

Bogus.

Mary calls Christ her Savior.

Mary needed a asavior because of her sin.

[Elsie]

Yup, but that's not a presumption, since texts exist, one dated to the 2nd century, before the establishment of the Church in Rome, which gives the ages of Mary and Joseph in startling precision.

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The Lord spoke to ME; with STARTLING precision; where to find them thar Golden Plates; too!