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To: D-fendr

Do they think the pampered European whose image is on the Shroud is Jesus?

John 12:45
And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.


88 posted on 03/05/2017 6:13:27 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: bogusname

Thanks for your reply.

>>>”Do they think the pampered European whose image is on the Shroud is Jesus?”

I don’t believe anyone mistakes the shroud for Jesus. Do you? My question was: Do you think people mistake the shroud for God?

That seems to be your main contention and objection.

Your answer seems to be: yes, people mistake the shroud for God. Would that be a correct conclusion from your reply?


94 posted on 03/05/2017 7:06:30 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: bogusname
Do they think the pampered European whose image is on the Shroud is Jesus?

The physiologists and forensic pathologists who have studied the man on the image on the Shroud have stated he was a muscular, ROBUST person who most like is a genotype of a what is now referred to as a High Noble Semite, a middle eastern genotype who did physical labor who was well muscled, who stood 70" tall. He was not by any means "pampered." Your claim that he at all has "feminine" hips is completely false according to scientific examination, none of which has found anything feminine about the measurements in the image. This image is literally the single most studied object in history and you and your YouTube author have the temerity to make bogus, false claims that are easily proved to be exactly that. They are merely opinions not borne out by any studies, anywhere, except someone's unproven statement.

As for the 100 lbs of spices (or was it only 75 lbs—some Biblical source place it at that), they were packed AROUND the body, and the shroud was laid over both them and the body. Why were the women bringing MORE on the morning when the empty Tomb was discovered? Was it because not all of the purchased amount was used on Friday night because the interment had to be rushed so the men doing it could get home before sundown, the beginning of the Sabbath? Most of the spices were in their natural form, aromatic plants (this is specific in the Mishnah and the Talmud, the written rules of the Jews). Besides, bogusname, there is sctientific evidence of these spices existence found on Shroud after all these years, and it is well documented if you bothered to read the peer reviewed scientific articles on the Shroud which report such traces. But, no, you can't be bothered to do that.

Just as you cannot be bothered to read other translations of the Bible in which Jesus is referred to as not the Nazarene but as the Nazarite. . . a sect of Jew who take a vow to never cut their hair until the die. There are many more versions of the Bible in multiple languages that use Nazarite than Nazarene. That came in with the King James Version of the Bible. . . and may be a mistranslation of the original Greek word. Oops. I bet you only read the English translation of the Bible. Right? Or did you bother to learn Greek so you could read the new Testament in its original language? How about knowing the differences between Greek and Aramaic? Did you know that Jewish men would wear their hair the same length as their beards? That was what was considered neatly trimmed? How about that remnants of full length shrouds have been found in 1st Century Jewish cemeteries near Jerusalem? All of this is true. . . but has been denied by Shroud skeptics.

Are you claiming that Jesus took the time during his three years of His ministry to go find a barber to have his hair cut? What tools did Jewish men use to trim their hair closely? Scissors? Do you realize how expensive a tool that was to buy or own? How difficult they were to make? How about a razor?

113 posted on 03/06/2017 12:37:55 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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