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To: piusv

Do you call him Pope Francis ?


73 posted on 03/01/2017 7:08:54 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
I see where you are headed with your interrogation and I would say to you that you should keep in mind that a great Catholic Saint adhered to an anti-pope and did not recognize the true pope: St Vincent Ferrer. Many Catholics were mistaken about the identity of the true pope at that time.

Although different in some regards (and I would say much, much worse), we find ourselves in a similar situation where one needs to decide whether the papal claimant is in fact legit. Unlike the Great Western Schism where all papal claimants were without a doubt Catholic, we currently have a papal claimant who doesn't even profess the Catholic Faith. As a result, I do not believe he is a valid pope. I may be mistaken in my conclusion, but it doesn't make me non-Catholic.

St Vincent Ferrer also didn't believe the pope to be the true pope. He happened to be mistaken, and yet he was still canonized a Catholic Saint. But I guess, based on your recent questioning, you probably wouldn't allow him to post in a FR Catholic Caucus either.

I have decided to take a break from posting during Lent (and really shouldn't even be writing this post), so I will not be responding any further.

The issue of Francis is a lot more complicated than some choose to consider. Rather than call him a manifest heretic, a non-Catholic, they would much rather hypocritically point fingers at a Catholic who is merely applying Catholic principles and teachings to come to the conclusion that Francis can not possibly be a true Catholic pope. Before judging those of us who hold this position as non-Catholic, you should really learn more about the Catholic Faith.

And finally, perhaps when those who can actually do something about the Crisis come to the same conclusion we can rid ourselves of the usurper. As long as he is treated as legit, things will only get worse.

81 posted on 03/02/2017 5:43:49 AM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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