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af_vet_1981
Is this fake news ?
No. Unfortunately, it is not fake.
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02/27/2017 6:34:50 PM PST
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ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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ebb tide
No. Unfortunately, it is not fake.
As presented by Lifesite,
.
For example, the
story
you linked in this thread has this out of context:
Last year Francis said that cohabitating couples are in a real marriage and receive the grace of the Sacrament. Ive seen a lot of fidelity in these cohabitations, and I am sure that this is a real marriage, they have the grace of a real marriage because of their fidelity, he said at that time.
Another site, reports the
quotes
in a much broader context that makes
lifesite
look like fake news propaganda.
The initial comments had come as the Pope was addressing the Diocese of Romes pastoral congress. After his initial scripted remarks, he held a question-and-answer session.
A layman asked about the crisis of marriage and how Catholics can help educate youth in love, help them learn about sacramental marriage, and help them overcome their resistance, delusions and fears.
The Pope answered from his own experience.
I heard a bishop say some months ago that he met a boy that had finished his university studies, and said I want to become a priest, but only for 10 years. Its the culture of the provisional. And this happens everywhere, also in priestly life, in religious life, he said.
Its provisional, and because of this the great majority of our sacramental marriages are null. Because they say yes, for the rest of my life! but they dont know what they are saying. Because they have a different culture. They say it, they have good will, but they dont know.
He spoke of his encounter with a woman in Buenos Aires who reproached him. She said that priests study for the priesthood for years and can get permission to leave the priesthood to marry and have a family. For the laity, this woman said, we have to do the sacrament for our entire lives, and indissolubly, to us laity they give four (marriage preparation) conferences, and this is for our entire life.
Pope Francis said that marriage preparation is a problem, and that marital problems are also linked to social situations surrounding weddings.
He recounted his encounter with a man engaged to be married who was looking for a church that would complement his fiancées dress and would not be far from a restaurant.
Its social issue, and how do we change this? I dont know, the Pope said.
He noted that as Archbishop of Buenos Aires he had prohibited marriages in the case of shotgun weddings where the prospective bride was pregnant. He did this on the grounds there was a question of the spouses free consent to marry.
Maybe they love each other, and Ive seen there are beautiful cases where, after two or three years they got married, he said. And I saw them entering the church, father, mother and child in hand. But they knew well (what) they did.
Pope Francis attributed the marriage crisis to people who dont know what the sacrament is and dont know the beauty of the sacrament.
They dont know that its indissoluble, they dont know that its for your entire life. Its hard, the Pope said.
He added that a majority of couples attending marriage prep courses in Argentina typically cohabitated.
They prefer to cohabitate, and this is a challenge, a task. Not to ask why dont you marry? No, to accompany, to wait, and to help them to mature, help fidelity to mature.
He said that in Argentinas northeast countryside, couples have a child and live together. They have a civil wedding when the child goes to school, and when they become grandparents they get married religiously.
Its a superstition, because marriage frightens the husband. Its a superstition we have to overcome, the Pope said. Ive seen a lot of fidelity in these cohabitations, and I am sure that this is a real marriage, they have the grace of a real marriage because of their fidelity, but there are local superstitions, etc.
Marriage is the most difficult area of pastoral work, he said.
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02/27/2017 6:44:20 PM PST
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af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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