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To: metmom
The Holy Spirit has been mentioned even in the OT. If the Holy Spirit is NOT God, then what is he/it?

What it's NOT is a separate entity in triune Godhead. The bible is very clear on that. Most of the time though it's God's influence on the creation. It's when God interacts with creation.

For example an ant probably can't conceive of how big and vast a person I am. It can't possibly know how I'm constructed. It can't know what kind of life I lead. It has no clue about human civilization or potential.

BUT if I poke that ant with my finger and throw it off course she's going to feel it and her path will be altered. And, not being able to comprehend what made her change course, she's going to say "God made me change course."

And maybe that ant talks to others ants and some say "Hey..something similar happened to me". So now they have a concept of God. But their interaction IS with God...NOT with a separate person OTHER then God.

That's how people in the bible thought of the spirit of God. They knew they couldn't comprehend the vastness of God but they knew that God had interaction and influence with them. They called that "spirit" because it's beyond our capability to conceptualize it.

But again scripture clearly teaches this. Scripture screams "two" in the Godhead.

87 posted on 02/10/2017 8:30:52 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; metmom; MHGinTN

quote-But again scripture clearly teaches this. Scripture screams “two” in the Godhead.

Douglas, there are patterns of ‘3’ in the Scriptures. Even what can be described as 3 parts of one whole(which is essentially what the trinity is)..

Zechariah 13:8 describes one of them:

1st part and 2nd part cut off and die, third left in and refined through fire.

2 of those parts are alike(cut off) and the 3rd is distinctly different (left in)

A man, it has been describe, as having ‘3’ parts:

Spirit and Soul, Body...
2 of those are ‘alike’. but one is distinctly different from the other two(body)

The Temple has ‘3’ parts-
Holy of Holies and Holy Place, and the Outer Court..

2 of those are alike. but one is distnctly different from the other two.(Outer Court)

3 parts of the ‘whole temple’..

One could argue that in a pattern of Father,Son and Holy Spirit it may look more like:

Father and Son , the Holy Spirit.

2 of those are alike (as human fathers and sons can witness to us) but the 3rd part is distnctly different.

3 parts of the same ‘whole’.

With the 3rd part in each or the above examples, being ‘different’ from the first two..

so instead of 1-2-3 it would more like 1-2, 3

He may be declaring ‘trinity’ to us in patterns that we can’t hear or see because we are deaf and blind to it.


88 posted on 02/10/2017 9:20:17 AM PST by delchiante
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To: DouglasKC; boatbums
What it's NOT is a separate entity in triune Godhead. The bible is very clear on that.

Verses please.

If the Bible is so clear on it, please cite your references to support your claim.

91 posted on 02/10/2017 2:06:49 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: DouglasKC
That's how people in the bible thought of the spirit of God. They knew they couldn't comprehend the vastness of God but they knew that God had interaction and influence with them. They called that "spirit" because it's beyond our capability to conceptualize it.

You know that, eh?

Did they tell you that?

92 posted on 02/10/2017 2:08:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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