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To: DouglasKC; metmom

John 14:16-17-”And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; [that is] the Spirit of the truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, [but] you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you.”

John 14:26-”But the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.”

John 15:26-”When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, [that is] the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me.”

John 16:7-8-”But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. And He, when He comes, will convict the world...”

John 16:13-15-”But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. He shall glorify Me; for He shall take of Mine, and shall disclose [it] to you. All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose [it] to you.”


75 posted on 02/09/2017 8:00:54 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
All of those verses affirm such a thing as the holy spirit of God. That is biblical. However what is NOT biblical is the placing of the holy spirit in the Godhead. Nobody in biblical times did it. It is an "evolved" doctrine.

Evidence is overwhelming:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  He was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 

No holy spirit in the Godhead.

Dan_7:13  "I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him.

No holy spirit in the Godhead.

Rev 7:10  and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!" 
Rev 7:11  All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 

Who is God? Father and son, but no holy spirit.

What God does Paul send greetings from in EVERY letter? the God that is composed of the father and son:

1Co 1:3  Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 

Never a greeting from the holy spirit. Blasphemous of Paul if it were understood that way. But Paul didn't understand the Godhead that way. Nobody in biblical times did.

The historical evidence of how the trinity came about is crystal clear. It grew and developed and didn't become full fledged until centuries after the death of Christ. It's not biblical.

76 posted on 02/09/2017 8:25:39 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: boatbums

Mormons and Roodians have parsed that to a level of unbelief. We may be seeing a couple of those adherents here ...


83 posted on 02/10/2017 4:57:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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