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To: Repent and Believe
Besides, there are proofs which surpass your indirect proofs given for Protestant doctrine, proofs that other Christian writers have provided to support the high place of Mary (”And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.” St. Luke 1:42), which are stronger than just the inferences that YOU used for your FALSE claim. (Where in my beloved Scriptures - which protestants reinterpret and often reject - does it say that the only authority for fact is the Scripture whenever one ECF does not agree with another?)

Yes, Mary was blessed among women for being the mother of Christ. That does not prove the catholic claim she was immaculate.

Again, back to the catholic encyclopdeia....no proof can be be brought forward from Scripture for this dogma.

The catholic likes to rely upon "tradition". Which tradition do you rely upon? I've shown using catholic sources where some of the ECFs deny Mary was immaculate.

There are ECFs who say yes.

However, those who knew Mary the best...the disciples...never once wrote about her being immaculate. Not even John who probably knew her best. Have you not ever wondered why?

165 posted on 01/08/2017 6:31:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“...However, those who knew Mary the best...the disciples...never once wrote about her being immaculate. Not even John who probably knew her best. Have you not ever wondered why?”

I have a similar question:

Paul wrote to the Thessalonians,
“And we charge you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly, and not according to the tradition which they have received of us.” 2 Thessalonians 3:6

Paul didn’t say, “...withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly, and not according to the scriptures.”

Have you never wondered why he didn’t?

Also Jesus commanded His Apostles to teach and to preach.
He never commanded them to write anything.

Have you not ever wondered why not?


167 posted on 01/08/2017 3:09:59 PM PST by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: ealgeone
However, those who knew Mary the best...the disciples...never once wrote about her being immaculate. Not even John who probably knew her best. Have you not ever wondered why?

According to the writers documenting early Christianity; Mary didn't say much at ALL!


All the Words of Mary...
...as recorded in the Bible.

 
 ...To the angel
“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” 
Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.”   (Luke 1:30-38)
 

...To Elizabeth
And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—holy is his name. His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped his servant Israel, remembering to be merciful to Abraham and his descendants forever, even as he said to our fathers.” (Luke 1:46-55)
 

 ...To Jesus
His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”  (Luke 2:48-50)
 

... at Cana
And when the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it” (John 2:3-5).
 


Have you not ever wondered why?



193 posted on 01/09/2017 11:02:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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