Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
No, Yeshua continued the practices his Father instituted at Sinai.
Hard to figure how you can accept some of the New Testament but reject the rest of it...
“For a group that claims they never change....that’s quite a change.”
Well, pv should have qualified, and I am sure he will agree, that the 1983 Code of Canon Law is not a Catholic document. That is because it was authored by heretics and apostates, not the true Catholic Church (see post 19).
People blaspheme and commit acts of sacrilege all the time, and because they aren't turned into a pile of ash immediately they assume Jesus doesn't mind.
Same credo as that of theives, rapists and murderers - no bolts of lightning from God are stopping them, therefore it must be okay. Do what thou wilt. Right?
“Protestants are my brothers and sisters in Christ.”
So you are united to protesters? But the very term, “Protestant” necessarily means protester. Yet you claim that you are not a protester (one who argues) because that sows more anger and discord than understanding.
Then why do you argue with the Catholic Church by so saying, for the Catholic Church teaches that Protestants are not in Christ. You can look it up from the mouth of Popes prior to 1959, as they argued against the Protestants being our brothers and sistes.
(That hails back to post number 19 where is presented the idea that the Vatican II Church is at war with the true Catholic Church.)
Now you don’t dare argue with me or you will be doing what you said you are opposed to doing!
“...Catholic with a capital ‘C’ is something entirely different...”
O.K., if it is something entirely different, then what does the word itself mean? If you don’t know, then are you scholarly enough to SHOW that it doesn’t refer to “universal” in its original usage?
Catholicism IS the sole universal Christian religion of the scriptures.
“The writing of ... historians have been proven to be forgeries; lies...”
No they haven’t.
Well, it's a good thing we don't have to rely upon what the pope says.
I'm counting on the truth of what Jesus said as recorded by John.
24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24 NASB
Do you believe this?
Catholics believe this:
Amen, amen I say unto you, that he who heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath life everlasting; and cometh not into judgment, but is passed from death to life.
Protestants, on the other hand, do not heareth Jesus’ word when He says certain things that don’t agree with them, such as when He spoke of the need to eat His flesh and drink His blood to have everlasting life.
By the way, the scriptures were authenticated by the Pope. Therefore, everything that you have ever read in an authentic Bible is what what was handed to you by the Pope and is what the pope says, for he hands it to us and says that we must believe it.
Catholicism is a cult, the only cult in which one can be saved. Jesus Christ is the cult leader. The Pope is His prime earthly representative.
(This is so when you apply the generic definition of “cult” rather than the modern, negative-only definition.)
How does my belief system “track like a cult”?
How does my “misplace passion” stand at odds with the historic Catholicism?
“...and also reading St. Augustine...”
Just 2 nights ago I found myself researching and compiling quotes from him.
And your pope tells us that one doesn't even have to believe in Jesus to become a Catholic...
The scriptures were not authenticated by the pope. One of the oldest and most debunked claims of Roman Catholicism.
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There is no part of the word that I reject.
What I reject is the man made garbage of Dispensationalism, and of the catholic church invented by Constantine.
Yeshua offered no new form of worship; he affirmed the word delivered at Sinai. Matthew ch 5 makes that abundantly clear.
His testimony as recorded in the gospels further affirms it.
We are to do as he did, just as John explained in his first epistle. That is believing in him.
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>> “Perhaps it depends on what your definition of communion and is, is...If a group of Christians come together and are partaking of bread and wine for the purpose of remembering the Crucifixion after first cleansing their/our hearts, it is called communion...Like commune...A commune of people with like interests” <<
OK, I go along with that, but that is far from what is called communion by the nicolaitan church.
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no. Christianity is right.
The statements you wrote... they are blasphemy.
You need to stop.
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No, you need to get familiar with the word of Yehova.
“Christianity” was completely invented by unbelieving men.
It leads away from the word.
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I won’t even go to a Vatican II Mass much less a protestant service.
trans = transfer
substantiation = substance
The bread and wine is transferred into the substance of the Body and Blood of Christ.
I’m not going to argue with you.
Peace be with you.
“The scriptures were not authenticated by the pope. One of the oldest and most debunked claims of Roman Catholicism.”
That has never been dis-proven. So you think the successors of Peter had no say in the selection of texts?!
According to even Wikipedia, for example:
“...In the 4th century a series of synods produced a list of texts equal to the 39, 46/51, 54, or 57-book canon of the Old Testament and to the 27-book canon of the New Testament that would be subsequently used to today, most notably the Synod of Hippo in 393 CE. Also c. 400, Jerome produced a definitive Latin edition of the Bible (see Vulgate), the canon of which, at the insistence of the Pope, was in accord with the earlier Synods. With the benefit of hindsight it can be said that this process effectively set the New Testament canon, although there are examples of other canonical lists in use after this time.”...“Pope Damasus I assembled the first list of books of the Bible at the Council of Rome in 382 CE...”
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