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Theologian: Shared Communion With Protestants Would be Blasphemy and Sacrilege
National Catholic Register ^
| January 2, 2017
| Edward Pentin
Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would go against Revelation and the Magisterium, leading Christians to commit blasphemy and sacrilege, an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Churchs teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of open Communion proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Fathers own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations in special cases.
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Popes recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given a new thrust to the ecumenical process.
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kaspers theology whose thinking has significantly influenced
the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination...
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To: boatbums
boatbums: In keeping with the spirit of this letter by Saint Paul...FYI...R&B, Free Republic Religion Forum threads are NOT “church”...in case you didn’t realize that.
R&B: That is why the words “In keeping with the spirit of this letter” were used rather than “according to this letter”.
boatbums: Why, Elsie, I think you were just accused of being a “woman”! Bet your wife will be surprised.
R&B: Elsie, I think boatmums identifies you as a man. Is he accurate? He also infers that being a woman is a bad thing, for he uses the word “accused” instead of the word “supposed” in that comment.
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posted on
01/11/2017 3:06:17 AM PST
by
Repent and Believe
(The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
To: boatbums
...extra-biblical dogmas...Considering that...
All the Words of Mary...
...as recorded in the Bible.
...To the angel
How will this be, Mary asked the angel, since I am a virgin?
Mary answered. May it be to me as you have said. (Luke 1:30-38)
...To Elizabeth
And Mary said: My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for meholy is his name. His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped his servant Israel, remembering to be merciful to Abraham and his descendants forever, even as he said to our fathers. (Luke 1:46-55)
...To Jesus
His mother said to him, Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you. (Luke 2:48-50)
... at Cana
And when the wine gave out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, They have no wine.
His mother said to the servants, Whatever He says to you, do it (John 2:3-5).
382
posted on
01/11/2017 3:11:41 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ealgeone
We believe IN Him. vs
We believe ABOUT Him.
383
posted on
01/11/2017 3:13:15 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
Perhaps there is no guarantee that there will be ANY faithful left when He comes back.Dang!
Not even CATHOLICS?
384
posted on
01/11/2017 3:14:03 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
385
posted on
01/11/2017 3:14:54 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: boatbums; metmom
Id like to hear how rejecting the current duly elected Pope of Rome, Pope Francis, isnt also protesting!
There is already a term for that in history. It is called The Counter-Reformation
Nope...that doesn’t answer my question about why you and those who think as you do about the current Pope and his predecessors aren’t protesting and are “Protestants”.
____________________________
The “Second Vatican Council” was essentially a protest and rebellion against the church. In it for example six heretic protestants were invited by Rome as advisers. Traditional (true) Catholics on the other hand are not joining the protest.
The Counter-Reformation is actually a misnomer because is was begun prior to Luther’s rebellion.
386
posted on
01/11/2017 3:16:48 AM PST
by
Repent and Believe
(The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
To: Repent and Believe
In keeping with the spirit of this letter by Saint Paul I will not ask for Elsies reply.And in keeping with the WORDS of St. Paul...
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
387
posted on
01/11/2017 3:18:01 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
In keeping with the spirit of this letter by Saint Paul...To bad Rome no longer adheres to the 'spirit' of the letter that the ECFs wrote in Acts 15.
388
posted on
01/11/2017 3:18:56 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
[34] Let women keep silence in the churches:But; if you are without sin; you may return to earth over and over again; speaking a vast number of topics and promising many things that your son failed to get recorded by the Apostles.
389
posted on
01/11/2017 3:21:07 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
...failed to get recorded by the Apostles.For those keeping score; this is Elsie 1:4
390
posted on
01/11/2017 3:21:54 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: boatbums
Why, Elsie, I think you were just accused of being a "woman"! FR is now considered to be CHURCH?
Oh; wait!
I forgot the spirit of who just penned that reply.
391
posted on
01/11/2017 3:23:49 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
Here is a good passage that applies to her and others who would be like her:HMMMmmm...
The 4 times her words were recorded; she was NEVER in church.
392
posted on
01/11/2017 3:25:43 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
We can tell when someone is trying to manipulate us into submission with Scripture.Well; boiling oil is SO medieval!
393
posted on
01/11/2017 3:26:38 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mark17
I can't speak for other Catholics, but I worshipped Mary, when I was a Catholic. 😆 Why?
Did you BELIEVE the 'promises' that she reportedly spoke?
394
posted on
01/11/2017 3:28:01 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Mark17
Two days ago it was 3° here!
Yesterday a warm front rolled thru and the GW enthusiasts will be crowing, “I told you so!” as it approaches 60° today.
395
posted on
01/11/2017 3:30:47 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
Is he accurate? Is it relevant?
Galatians 3:27-29
For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abrahams seed and heirs according to the promise.
396
posted on
01/11/2017 3:33:35 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
For all of you who were baptized into Christ ...
And if you belong to Christ...Note that Paul did NOT write:
For all of you who were baptized by a Catholic priest...
or...
And if you belong to the church of Rome...
397
posted on
01/11/2017 3:35:52 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
He also infers that being a woman is a bad thing, for he uses the word accused instead of the word supposed in that comment.It sounds to me that being R&B is the 'bad' thing; as it's pointed out that R&B supposedly seems to ACCUSE various people all the time of something or another.
Mostly Protestant people.
But his own chosen religion's Supreme Leader gets a heck of a lot of flak as well; so us heretical minions shouldn't complain TOO much.
398
posted on
01/11/2017 3:39:47 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
399
posted on
01/11/2017 3:49:31 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Repent and Believe
In it for example six heretic protestants were invited by Rome as advisers.HMMMmmm...
From time to time, some FR Catholics like to trot out a fairly high ranking ex-Prot; that converted to the RCC way of thinking; as some kind of person for the rest of us Prots to emulate.
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posted on
01/11/2017 3:53:34 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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