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How Does the Church Correct the Serious Error of a Pope?
EWTN ^ | November 26, 2016 | Deacon Nick Donnelly

Posted on 11/26/2016 5:00:52 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

Considering the seriousness of the questions put to him by the cardinals, Pope Francis’ decision not to respond is incomprehensible. The cardinals have cautioned the Holy Father that consequences will follow his refusal of their dubia. Cardinal Burke explained in his interview with Edward Pentin that the Pope's lack of response may trigger a formal act of correction. Pentin asked, “What happens if the Holy Father does not respond to your act of justice and charity and fails to give the clarification of the Church’s teaching that you hope to achieve?"  To which Cardinal Burke replied,

“Then we would have to address that situation. There is, in the Tradition of the Church, the practice of correction of the Roman Pontiff. It is something that is clearly quite rare. But if there is no response to these questions, then I would say that it would be a question of taking a formal act of correction of a serious error…”.

Pentin asked a follow up question, “If the Pope were to teach grave error or heresy, which lawful authority can declare this and what would be the consequences?” Cardinal Burke replied,

“It is the duty in such cases, and historically it has happened, of cardinals and bishops to make clear that the Pope is teaching error and to ask him to correct it.”

Cardinal Burke rightly points out that instigating a formal act of correction of a serious error by a Roman Pontiff is rare. In fact we have to look to the 14th century and the Church’s response to a serious error promulgated by Pope John XXII.

The Church corrected the serious error of Pope John XXII

Pope John XXII’s serious error was in the area of eschatology, not moral theology, and in particular he proposed his own idea that after death the righteous soul did not immediately enjoy the reward of the Beatific Vision. Instead, he favoured the novel idea that the soul waited until the resurrection of the body, and the final, universal judgement to enjoy the beatific vision of God. Pope John XXII’s speculative proposition is against the established and continuous teaching of the Church, as now expressed in the Catechism of the Church as follows:

Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven — through a purification or immediately, or immediate and everlasting damnation. (CCC 1022).

Eight years into his pontificate, disturbing rumours began to circulate in Europe’s universities and throughout the Church that Pope John XXII was ‘favouring’ a serious error contrary to the teaching of the Church. By November 1331 these rumours transformed into alarm following John XXII’s delivery of three homilies proposing that his new teaching was supported by a ‘reading’ of Scripture and the Church Fathers. The Catholic world outside of the papal court of Avignon was profoundly and deeply disturbed by the news that the Head of the Church was proposing a teaching contrary to magisterial teaching. However, the pope’s novel ideas found favour among some within his court who sought the Holy Father’s patronage and preferment. 

Faced with growing protests from clergy throughout Christendom Pope John XXII sought to defend his innovation in two ways: he claimed it was not his own teaching but the teaching of scripture and the Church Fathers and he asserted that it was only his private opinion as a theologian, and not taught in his role as Head of the Church. The pope further claimed that the question was open to discussion and every clergyman was free to accept or reject whichever side of the controversy he judged as true.

However, the Holy Father’s actions belied his words. Pope John XXII’s treatment of supporters and opponents showed his preference for those who upheld his “new” teaching. Supporters received honours and preferment, while those who opposed Pope John XII, either informally or formally, experienced papal disfavour, and even punishment. He also sought to disseminate his erroneous teaching by commanding that copies of his sermons were distributed to his supporters.

But the more Pope John XII and his supporters sought to promulgate his error, the greater the uproar and resistance from the Church beyond the papal court. King Phillip VI of  France and the Dominican faculty of the university of Paris were Pope John XXII’s most implacable opponents, despite the Holy Father’s personal rebukes and imposition of ‘yes’ men. As Fr. Victor Francis O’Daniel, O.P. put it, “Neither fear of feeling the weight of papal displeasure, nor hope of reward, had any influence… when there was question of an error against Catholic faith.”

Determined to meet the challenge of Pope John XXI’s error head on, King Philip VI called a meeting of the theological faculty of the University of Paris. On December 19, 1333 a commission of 23 masters of theology assembled under the presidency of the Dominican patriarch of Jerusalem, Peter de la Palud, and in the presence of the kings of France and Navarre, and many bishops, priests, and lay faithful. They unanimously declared their firm belief in established and continual Catholic teaching on the righteous soul’s immediate reward of the Beatific Vision on death and individual judgement. 

The commission drew up a profession of faith which they signed, and submitted to Pope John XII. The profession of faith was accompanied with a letter to the Holy Father which was polite and respectful, but also expressed clearly and firmly the result of their deliberations. They reminded Pope John XXII that he had declared that he had spoken as an individual theologian, not as Head of the Church infallibly defining a doctrine. They also expressed the hope that the Holy Father would give his apostolic sanction to their decision.

Following his receipt of the signed profession of faith and letter Pope John XXII immediately convoked a consistory in January 1334 during which he displayed openness and tolerance towards those who opposed him, and repeated his assertion that he had never intended to dogmatically settle the question, but rather that he had sought an open discussion. He also sent letters admonishing those supporters that the King of France judged had overstepped the mark in their zeal to promote his “new” teaching, and he released from prison those opponents investigated by the Inquisition. Later in the year, sensing his death was imminent, John XXII retracted the serious error he had preached or had caused others to preach or teach that was not “in perfect conformity with Catholic belief.” 

Blessed Cardinal Schuster OSB (Cardinal and Archbishop of Milan, d. 1954) wrote the following assessment of this formal correction of the serious error of Pope John XXII:

John XXII has the gravest responsibilities before the tribunal of history… since he offered the entire Church, the humiliating spectacle of the princes, clergy and universities steering the Pontiff onto the right path of Catholic theological tradition, and placing him in the very difficult situation of having to contradict himself.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Moral Issues; Theology
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To: knarf

“Did Peter declare that ex cathedra, or relate an eye witness fact ?”

Did Jesus rise from the dead or not?


61 posted on 11/27/2016 11:00:26 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

Nice try ... the subject you chose to use is Peter speaking infallibly


62 posted on 11/27/2016 11:25:56 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

“Nice try ... the subject you chose to use is Peter speaking infallibly”

There is no trying. It’s already done. Jesus rose from the dead. That’s an infallibly true statement. Case closed.


63 posted on 11/27/2016 12:08:59 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998; Mark17; ealgeone

Many adults really tried to make an intelligent person out of you ... you owe them an apology for wasting their time.


64 posted on 11/27/2016 1:16:10 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: vladimir998; knarf
We really don't need Peter to tell us that.

I'll ask again for one last time.

Other than the two statements in the article you noted...and not counting what we have recorded in the NT...has any pope ever spoken ex cathedra?

65 posted on 11/27/2016 1:17:10 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: knarf

“Many adults really tried to make an intelligent person out of you ... you owe them an apology for wasting their time.”

What I said still stands, indisputable, and infallible: Jesus rose from the dead. Peter made infallible statements.


66 posted on 11/27/2016 1:35:23 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998; Mark17; ealgeone
And when you speak out loud the words of scripture, YOU make infallible statements.

Does that make you Peter or pope vlad ?

67 posted on 11/27/2016 1:41:39 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: ealgeone

“I’ll ask again for one last time.”

If this is the last time, then that seems like incentive to give no answer at all.

“Other than the two statements in the article you noted...and not counting what we have recorded in the NT...has any pope ever spoken ex cathedra?”

All of them have spoken ex cathedra. Every bishop who has ever been bishop for at least a short time has spoken ex cathedra. When you realize your mistake get back to me.


68 posted on 11/27/2016 1:49:29 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: knarf

“And when you speak out loud the words of scripture, YOU make infallible statements.”

Exactly. Thus, we all agree a man guided by the Holy Spirit (scripture is inspired after all) can speak infallibly.

“Does that make you Peter or pope vlad ?”

No, just infallible when I say something that is true, no matter what my station in life.


69 posted on 11/27/2016 1:51:30 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
All of them have spoken ex cathedra. Every bishop who has ever been bishop for at least a short time has spoken ex cathedra. When you realize your mistake get back to me.

Not what I asked. I asked about popes...not bishops. The article you posted noted only two ex cathedra statements since 1800.

Have there been any other ex cathedra statements by a pope prior to 1800?

70 posted on 11/27/2016 2:01:01 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; Mark17
It's no wonder they have a lunatic for a pope ... look at the ones catering to the lunacy ... fellow lunatics

And I spoke THOSE words ex cathedra !

71 posted on 11/27/2016 2:03:21 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: ealgeone

“Not what I asked.”

Yes, it is: “has any pope ever spoken ex cathedra?”

“I asked about popes...not bishops.”

And I answered about popes: “All of them have spoken ex cathedra.” And bishops (because that’s what the term refers to): “Every bishop who has ever been bishop for at least a short time has spoken ex cathedra.”

“The article you posted noted only two ex cathedra statements since 1800.”

You’re admitting that now? Originally in post 41 you said: “The article suggests the pope has only exercised this “authority” only twice.” I corrected you in post 43: “Actually it says, “ You can count on one hand (two fingers, even!) the number of times the pope has invoked this authority since 1800 A.D.” Twice since 1800.”

Finally, you’re learning.

“Have there been any other ex cathedra statements by a pope prior to 1800?”

In post 65 you said: “I’ll ask again for one last time.”

This then is the last time + 1?

P.S. I already answered your question in post 68.

When you realize your mistake get back to me.


72 posted on 11/27/2016 2:09:01 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
I've come to the conclusion that attempting to have a rational discussion with you is like trying to get hillary to vote republican.

It just isn't going to happen.

Have a good day vlad.

73 posted on 11/27/2016 2:13:41 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Everything I said was true. Of course you have to leave then.


74 posted on 11/27/2016 4:57:40 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

If all that makes you feel better about yourself.


75 posted on 11/27/2016 5:15:34 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“If all that makes you feel better about yourself.”

It has nothing to do with feelings. It’s just a fact.


76 posted on 11/27/2016 5:46:41 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

I hope you have a good night, Vlad.


77 posted on 11/27/2016 5:47:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

You too.


78 posted on 11/27/2016 5:52:49 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: jsanders2001
A delegation of Cardinals asks him to resign. If he does, no further problem.

If he does not, they make him an offer he cannot refuse.

Another idea is to confine him and impose a rule of silence.

Another way is simply to elect a new pope and put the old one under house arrest.

79 posted on 11/27/2016 6:01:05 PM PST by Rapscallion (The opposite of charity is justice. I favor justice every time.)
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