Posted on 11/26/2016 5:00:52 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
“Did Peter declare that ex cathedra, or relate an eye witness fact ?”
Did Jesus rise from the dead or not?
Nice try ... the subject you chose to use is Peter speaking infallibly
“Nice try ... the subject you chose to use is Peter speaking infallibly”
There is no trying. It’s already done. Jesus rose from the dead. That’s an infallibly true statement. Case closed.
Many adults really tried to make an intelligent person out of you ... you owe them an apology for wasting their time.
I'll ask again for one last time.
Other than the two statements in the article you noted...and not counting what we have recorded in the NT...has any pope ever spoken ex cathedra?
“Many adults really tried to make an intelligent person out of you ... you owe them an apology for wasting their time.”
What I said still stands, indisputable, and infallible: Jesus rose from the dead. Peter made infallible statements.
Does that make you Peter or pope vlad ?
“I’ll ask again for one last time.”
If this is the last time, then that seems like incentive to give no answer at all.
“Other than the two statements in the article you noted...and not counting what we have recorded in the NT...has any pope ever spoken ex cathedra?”
All of them have spoken ex cathedra. Every bishop who has ever been bishop for at least a short time has spoken ex cathedra. When you realize your mistake get back to me.
“And when you speak out loud the words of scripture, YOU make infallible statements.”
Exactly. Thus, we all agree a man guided by the Holy Spirit (scripture is inspired after all) can speak infallibly.
“Does that make you Peter or pope vlad ?”
No, just infallible when I say something that is true, no matter what my station in life.
Not what I asked. I asked about popes...not bishops. The article you posted noted only two ex cathedra statements since 1800.
Have there been any other ex cathedra statements by a pope prior to 1800?
And I spoke THOSE words ex cathedra !
“Not what I asked.”
Yes, it is: “has any pope ever spoken ex cathedra?”
“I asked about popes...not bishops.”
And I answered about popes: “All of them have spoken ex cathedra.” And bishops (because that’s what the term refers to): “Every bishop who has ever been bishop for at least a short time has spoken ex cathedra.”
“The article you posted noted only two ex cathedra statements since 1800.”
You’re admitting that now? Originally in post 41 you said: “The article suggests the pope has only exercised this “authority” only twice.” I corrected you in post 43: “Actually it says, “ You can count on one hand (two fingers, even!) the number of times the pope has invoked this authority since 1800 A.D.” Twice since 1800.”
Finally, you’re learning.
“Have there been any other ex cathedra statements by a pope prior to 1800?”
In post 65 you said: “I’ll ask again for one last time.”
This then is the last time + 1?
P.S. I already answered your question in post 68.
When you realize your mistake get back to me.
It just isn't going to happen.
Have a good day vlad.
Everything I said was true. Of course you have to leave then.
If all that makes you feel better about yourself.
“If all that makes you feel better about yourself.”
It has nothing to do with feelings. It’s just a fact.
I hope you have a good night, Vlad.
You too.
If he does not, they make him an offer he cannot refuse.
Another idea is to confine him and impose a rule of silence.
Another way is simply to elect a new pope and put the old one under house arrest.
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