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Pope Francis on the young who like Latin Mass: ‘Why so much rigidity?’
Life Site News ^ | November 11, 2016 | Claire Chretien

Posted on 11/13/2016 2:12:14 PM PST by Morgana

In a new interview, Pope Francis criticized the "rigidity" of young people who are attached to the Traditional Latin Mass.

"I always try to understand what's behind people who are too young to have experienced the pre-conciliar liturgy and yet still they want it," the pontiff said. "Sometimes I found myself confronted with a very strict person, with an attitude of rigidity. And I ask myself: Why so much rigidity? Dig, dig, this rigidity always hides something, insecurity or even something else. Rigidity is defensive. True love is not rigid."

Pope Francis frequently criticizes faithful Catholics using this type of rhetoric. He has blasted the "excessive rigidity" of Catholics who believe in moral absolutes.

“Traditionalists” with their “hostile inflexibility,” fail to allow themselves to be “surprised by God,” he said in 2014.

In the same interview, Pope Francis said Vatican II's major liturgical changes "should carry on as they are."

"To speak of the 'reform of the reform' is a mistake," he said.

The "reform of the reform" is an expression inspired by Pope Benedict XVI to refer to a reform of the post-Vatican II liturgy that would make it more closely aligned with Catholic liturgical tradition.

Following the Second Vatican Council, it was widely and errantly believed that the Old Rite of the Mass had been abolished or forbidden. In his motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI clarified that both the Ordinary Form (post-Vatican II Mass) and Extraordinary Form (Mass according to the 1962 missal) of the liturgy are permitted and "there is no contradiction between the two editions of the Roman Missal."

"In the history of the liturgy there is growth and progress, but no rupture," Pope Benedict wrote. "What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful." Image The annual Blessed Karl Mass is widely attended by young Catholics in the eastern United States.

In the new interview, however, Francis describes Benedict's actions as an "exception" that was "magnanimous."

Pope Benedict extended a "fair and magnanimous gesture to meet a certain mentality of some groups and people who had nostalgia. ... But it is an exception," Pope Francis said.

In an essay on why she likes the Traditional Latin Mass, teenaged Anya Proctor wrote that she was driven to it by "weird" homilies about "other religions, the gospel of Judas, funny stories in the newspaper, irrelevant anecdotes, and even blatant heresies" and "a priest using props on the altar to demonstrate his homily—as if we were all five-year-olds."

At the Traditional Latin Mass, "I came to know God," Proctor continued. "I got to fully experience Christ Incarnate in flesh and blood, on my knees, deep in silence and prayer — to meditate on his union with me as he was placed reverently on my tongue by his holy servant. I closed my eyes when I received Jesus. I felt physically, spiritually, and emotionally transformed. Many times in the Cathedral, tears have come to me as I have prayed and focused on Jesus’s love and sacrifice for me."

"Mass is not intended to celebrate people," Proctor wrote. "That’s for luncheons, birthday parties, and maybe youth groups—but not Mass. The Mass is for the Lord. The Mass is where the priest is so reverent he faces the Lord, not the people, so that they don’t focus on him, but only on Christ."

Juventutem ("youth" in Latin), an international federation of young people who attend and promote the Extraordinary Form of the Mass, has chapters around the world.

"We are a group of Catholic young adults who seek to implement Summorum Pontificum in the Archdiocese of Washington," Juventutem's Washington, DC chapter explains. "We love the traditional Roman liturgy and seek to share it with the Church and the world. Come pray with us!"

Juventutem's Boston chapter "promotes the sanctification of youth by means of the traditions of the Catholic Church, faithful to the Church’s teaching and her authorities, and in spiritual union with those young people throughout the world who share our aspirations...Juventutem Boston also dedicates itself to an intercessory apostolate, praying with and for our Bishops and Priests in union with His Holiness Pope Francis."

Six hundred young adults attended traditional liturgies at World Youth Day this year.


TOPICS: Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; latinmass; popefrancis
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1 posted on 11/13/2016 2:12:14 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Dude, Latin was great! They had five cases, they had the ablative absolute, they had gerunds and gerundives. What’s not to like?


2 posted on 11/13/2016 2:14:36 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Morgana

Go back to Latin America, Francis. The Cardinals made a mistake.


3 posted on 11/13/2016 2:14:53 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")
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To: Morgana
He has blasted the "excessive rigidity" of Catholics who believe in moral absolutes

Well, morals ARE absolute.

If I were Catholic I'd be very disappointed in this guy...

4 posted on 11/13/2016 2:18:49 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Morgana

I had to laugh today when a freeper, in response to an obvious truth wrote:

Is the Pope Communist?

Sad, of course, but funny because all humor is founded on truth.


5 posted on 11/13/2016 2:18:49 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Morgana
Yeahhh Loosen up, y'all
6 posted on 11/13/2016 2:19:36 PM PST by knarf
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To: proxy_user

Show off! I barely passed Latin in school except for the kindness of Mr. O’Hale!


7 posted on 11/13/2016 2:19:49 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: FrdmLvr

Where is Archbishop Gilday???


8 posted on 11/13/2016 2:20:07 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Morgana

Amen. A non biblical, cultural reflection from a Millenia ago. Not required to worship in spirit and truth.


9 posted on 11/13/2016 2:21:44 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Morgana

Pope Peronista I speaks.


10 posted on 11/13/2016 2:25:48 PM PST by Organic Panic (Gentrification in America. Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Morgana

Not Catholic, but this guy is a total embarrassment to the Church.


11 posted on 11/13/2016 2:26:25 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Morgana

OK Pope - the fluidity of the novus ordo that results in banal and dreadful liturgies suffering at the whim of every clueless “liturgical” director is better?

Really? I don’t think so ... I have been at dreadful masses - flat tone deaf cantors singing ditties on cheap microphones.

Lex orandi lex credendi.

This Pope is a clueless fool.


12 posted on 11/13/2016 2:27:59 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: Morgana

As a Latin mass attendee, I say, “Thanks, Frank. We love you too.”


13 posted on 11/13/2016 2:28:37 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: LouieFisk

“Pope Francis frequently criticizes faithful Catholics using this type of rhetoric. He has blasted the “excessive rigidity” of Catholics who believe in moral absolutes.

“Traditionalists” with their “hostile inflexibility,” fail to allow themselves to be “surprised by God,” he said in 2014.”

If Francis continues on his path to apostasy he’ll be very surprised by God when he’s called to account for leading his flock astray.


14 posted on 11/13/2016 2:30:46 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: Morgana

Nutball Pope. Ignore him and listen to the Bishops.


15 posted on 11/13/2016 2:31:53 PM PST by anton
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To: Morgana

Ad Deum qui laetificat juventutem meam.


16 posted on 11/13/2016 2:32:31 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Morgana

Catholics to Pope Frances: Why so much insanity?


17 posted on 11/13/2016 2:32:42 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Morgana

Lord forgive me, but I can’t stand this Jester. Where is his coxcomb?


18 posted on 11/13/2016 2:32:46 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Amen. A non biblical, cultural reflection from a Millenia ago. Not required to worship in spirit and truth.

As far as I know, none of us Latin Mass attendees are pushing for to make it 'required' for all Catholics. If you like your Mass, you can keep your Mass. The point here is that some of us like Latin Mass. Why can't we enjoy it in peace without this Argentine leftist casting aspersions on us?

As for the 'rigidity' thing, one could make the argument that ANY sort of Mass (Tridentine Latin, the English 'New Mass,' Byzantine whatever) is a rigid sort of worship. To Pope Francis, Latin Mass attendees are rigid. But does he not realize that his preferred religious practices are viewed the same way by much of the world? Francis should ask himself why does anyone need to go to Mass at all? Why even belong to the Church or even have a Pope? Why not sit on the lawn and smoke a joint? That's the logical result of his mentality, but he's not bright enough to see it.
19 posted on 11/13/2016 2:39:24 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Morgana

In think that the Holy Spirit looked away from the Conclave for a moment and the devil slipped in. That’s the only explanation I can think of for this heretical Pope.


20 posted on 11/13/2016 2:54:22 PM PST by namsman
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