Posted on 11/01/2016 4:46:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Pope Francis has once again answered the question of whether women will be priests in the Catholic church.
Pope Francis said the Catholic church is still opposed to women being ordained as priests, and it doesn't look like that's ever going to change.
While visiting Sweden, the Pope told the press the matter was settled in 1994, saying, "Saint Pope John Paul II had the last clear word on this, and it stands."
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Pope John Paul II's justification for the ban was that Jesus selected 12 men to be his apostles and zero women, setting a precedent for how the church should proceed in the future.
Some women were hopeful for some new openings in the church when the pope announced a commission would look into the historical role of female deacons in the Catholic church. But even then, the pope said that commission wasn't going to bring about any major changes.
Some Catholic women are upset their fight for equality is falling on deaf ears at the Vatican. They argue that adding women to the clergy could be a shot in the arm for Catholicism, which is already dealing with a waning number of priests.
Same here and as well as the rest of the saints who lived during those early years; just to sit down and listen to their stories.
Thangkew. :o)
Single parenting to me means they have to adopt to different roles in that a single father has to understand what his daughter’s wants and needs are as well as a single mom and her son.
Bergoglio is rarely right, often wrong and mostly ambiguous.
Once again, here is what he said concerning womyn priests:
“If we read carefully the declaration by St. John Paul II, it is going in that direction.”
Going in that direction? Bergoglio has just returned from Sweden where he celebrated Luther’s revolt in the Cathedral of Lund, a Catholic Cathedral built by Catholics but stolen by the Lutheran heretics and in which he celebrated their revolt.
P.S. Why doesn’t Bergoglio carefully read JP II’s Familiaris Consortio?
There were no Lector’s in Dorcas’ day. Paul would write letters that were sent from church to church to be read by the person who was holding a gathering. There was no structured service. Someone would deliver a letter from Paul to be read, and after some Psalms would be sung and that was that. The letter was then carried on to the next place where it was read. There were no Lector’s or whatever then. The Epistles weren’t even brought together in one binding then either.
Oh boy...Sister Simone Campbell and her group Nuns Under The Bus are gonna be mad~
Holy Communion and Confession are two of the Seven Sacraments; and Bergoglio is trashing both of them.
Pope says something Catholic.
Man bites dog.
Good question. And the answer?
The preaching and example of the Apostles.
This preaching, teaching and example St. Paul commands the early Church to take as its guide, plus of course the Scriptures, which to them would have meant the OT, since the NT had not yet been written. This is how the Church grew in faith and unity and numbers, even before the writing of the NT.
I's not really an "other" standard --- it's the *same* standard --- since the NT is in fact is an extremely important part of Sacred Tradition. The writings emerged from from the Holy-Spirit-inspired preaching, teaching, and example of the Holy Evangelists and Apostles, which precedes the written accounts thereof both logically and chronologically.
1 Corinthians 11:2
I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you.2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.2 Thessalonians 3:6
We instruct you, brothers, in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ, to shun any brother who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the tradition they received from us.
Note that he is not talking about any-old custom or some "human" tradition. He's telling people they must "stand firm and hold fast to" what they have received from the Apostles, namely Sacred or Apostolic Tradition.
Deo Gratias.
Domini canes!
However, to the topic at hand: Pope Francis has upheld the Eternal Law on the priesthood as specifically for males (viri).
Le us be glad and rejoice.
Clear. And it stands.
He makes it pretty clear. It's you who keep insisting that it's dubious.
God bless all who much face this challenging situation.
And now he has changed liturgical law to his personal whims.
“All negative, all the time.” It could make a person fail to notice answers to prayer, and thus neglect thanking God for the goodness of His grace to us. Even, on occasion, to the Pope.
Anything else casts doubt on the incarnation of the Son of God as a human man.
If an average suburban mom with a degree in Management can understand this, anyone can.
A woman can (symbolically) be "The Good Shepherdess," the "Prodigal's Mother," etc. With the necessary gifts, women can and do fill the "roles" of preacher, prophetess, mystic, counselor, minister-of-whatever, president of the Parish Council, judge on a Marriage Tribunal, Chancellor of the Diocese, rector of a Pontifical University, even Doctor of the Church.
She can be above and beyond all things, a handmaid, and a saint.
THE one thing she cannot embody is Christ the Head and Spouse of the Church.
If the priest represents Christ in some symbolic sense nuptially --- and to me, the argument rests on this ---then a woman cannot possibly "embody" Christ the Bridegroom.
Women, like men, are called to be members of the very Body of Christ and "partakers in the Divine Nature," according to St. Peter (2 Peter 1:4)!
So it's not --- to me --- precisely that a woman can't be "in Persona Christi," but that she can't be as "Christus Sponsum" --- Christ the Husband: not as an embodied sign.
Lutherans?
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