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Pope Francis: ‘God promised the land to the people of Israel’
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 10/26/2016 | LAHAV HARKOV, TOVAH LAZAROFF

Posted on 10/26/2016 7:20:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o


Pope Francis with Ayoub Kara at the Vatican on October 26, 2016. (photo credit:AYOUB KARA)

God promised the Holy Land to the people of Israel, Pope Francis said during a public address at the Vatican in Rome on Wednesday in a speech about migration.

“The people of Israel, who from Egypt, where they were enslaved, walked through the desert for forty years until they reached the land promised by God,” he said.

Pope Francis spoke just before granting a brief audience to Israeli Deputy Minister for Regional Cooperation Ayoub Kara to thank him for his efforts on behalf of the Church and Christians in Israel.

Kara told reporters he felt that the pontiff was sending a direct message to UNESCO, whose World Heritage Committee approved a resolution that ignored Jewish ties to the Temple Mount.

When he spoke with Pope Francis he thanked him for his statement acknowledging Israel’s rights to the Holy Land. He added that there is no question that the resolution is harmful to Christians and the Scriptures because it “distorts historical and theological facts.”

Kara is scheduled to meet on Thursday with Vatican Secretary of State Pietro Cardinal Parolin.

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Bayit Yehudi chairwoman Shuli Moalem-Refaeli said: “Arabs in Israel and abroad have a glorious record of harming Jewish, Christian and Muslim holy sites. They also have an impressive record of rewriting history in a way that shames international institutions.”

If Arabs want to disavow the Jewish connection to the Temple Mount and Israel, they should take it one step further, she added: “If we were never here and Jesus was a Palestinian, then I suggest that UNESCO condemn the Palestinians for crucifying Jesus.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Judaism
KEYWORDS: covenant; eternal; israel; jerusalem; popefrancis; zion
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Pope: the Holy Land belongs to the Jews.

And the Temple does, too!

It's not like Jesus drove the money-changers out of the Wal-Mart.

1 posted on 10/26/2016 7:20:17 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

When are the Egyptians going to pay reparations and take micro aggression classes to ride them of their brown guilt?


2 posted on 10/26/2016 7:24:32 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

With this Pope, I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.


3 posted on 10/26/2016 7:24:45 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The pope actually said something right. Wow- I am amazed.


4 posted on 10/26/2016 7:25:37 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yet none has a Tux on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgR5ZziAKPI


5 posted on 10/26/2016 7:26:45 PM PDT by soycd
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To: 2banana
Oh, Lordy. Strolling down History Lane with a Reparations Double Entry Accounting Book.

This could take awhile....

6 posted on 10/26/2016 7:27:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Obi-Wan, clear your mind must be if you are to discover the real villains behind this plot." - Yoda)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bravo Pope Francis!

In my Church we’ve already began having Mass on Saturday mornings and one Latin Mass per week is in the works.

Conclusion: the Church is returning to the salt and light she was meant to bestow upon the world.

The Pontiff might want to add that going against the will of the Almighty is not too smart.


7 posted on 10/26/2016 7:31:16 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; All
The "Holy Land" in Israel has a ton of Israeli Muslim Arabs and Israeli Catholic Arabs. There simply are not ENOUGH Israeli (or from wherever) Jews to do all the work that has to be done. THEY won't so some work, like clean toilets, so they HAVE to hire the Israeli Muslim Arabs. They are poor enough to need the work.

The Israeli Catholic Arabs, who call themselves Palestinian Catholic Arabs, are the middle men. My old friend, a Baptist-turned-Episcopalian, and I went on a Steve Ray (former Evangelical Baptist minister-convert to Catholicism) tour of the Holy Land. It was FABULOUS. I placed my already-blessed rosary on the Tomb of Jesus! How blessed am I?!
We were only allowed to enter His tomb in twos and for only a few minutes.

One can SEE the cooperation of all three groups of Israelis. HAD to be done and it works. Folks aren't thrilled about it or with it but they do it to co-exist in a land they ALL love.

It works because their are Israeli soldiers EVERYWHERE. There are Israeli checkpoints every half hour of driving. Uzis keep the peace. Imagine Uzi-peace in the homeland of Jesus, the Prince of Peace.

8 posted on 10/26/2016 7:36:11 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What "temple" are you speaking of?

This one, perhaps?

[51] And behold the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top even to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were rent. Matthew, Chapter 17

9 posted on 10/26/2016 7:38:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
“The people of Israel, who from Egypt, where they were enslaved, walked through the desert for 40 years until they reached the land promised by God,” Pope Francis said, the Jerusalem Post reported.

Good witness
10 posted on 10/26/2016 7:39:07 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
I have a Missal with the Mass in Latin on the left page and English on the right. I still say the LATIN "Agnus Dei," the Pater Noster and "Domine, non sum dignus..."

Since Jesus spoke Aramaic, perhaps the Mass SHOULD be in that language. It's dead as well.

Latin was the language of the conquerors, the ROMAN conquerors, wasn't it?

11 posted on 10/26/2016 7:41:18 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ebb tide

That’s the one.


12 posted on 10/26/2016 7:43:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Obi-Wan, clear your mind must be if you are to discover the real villains behind this plot." - Yoda)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Who sewed the veil back up?


13 posted on 10/26/2016 7:46:09 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: cloudmountain

I wish I had that. As I remember it, the Latin Mass Missal over the course of 52 weeks would essentially be your Catechism as well.

Religious Instructions would be unnecessary as all the youngsters needed to know could be had by attending Mass.


14 posted on 10/26/2016 8:01:44 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"We cannot give approval to this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem—but we could never sanction it. The soil of Jerusalem, if it was not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot tell you anything different. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people."Pope Saint Pius X.
15 posted on 10/26/2016 8:05:47 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Holy Land belongs to Christ!

Genesis 12:7 "And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land:"

Galatians 3:16 "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."

And for your further consideration:
Galatians 3:28-29 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

16 posted on 10/26/2016 8:23:46 PM PDT by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

... and that’s not all He promised Israel!


17 posted on 10/26/2016 8:40:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: cloudmountain

“Neo-Aramaic languages are spoken today as a first language by many scattered and usually small and isolated communities of Christians, Jews, and Mandaeans of Western Asia,[9] most numerously by the Assyrian people in the form of Turoyo, Assyrian Neo-Aramaic and Chaldean Neo-Aramaic that have all retained use of the once dominant lingua franca despite subsequent language shifts experienced throughout the Middle East. The Aramaic languages are now considered endangered.[10]”

Wiki


18 posted on 10/26/2016 8:43:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

Holy Fathers come and go as is the way of all flesh.
There have been a number of far more Christian and favorable and nuanced statements (and also some less so), since that Papal quote you from over 100 years ago. Any reading of what the several Holy Fathers have said and done since that statement, including of course the official Vatican recognition of the legitimacy of the State of Israel, should serve to place things in a more accurate (factually and Biblically, imho) perspective.


AND...BUT... However ANY of that may be, whatever any Pope many choose to say or do, God is eternal. And, God is “the boss,” as He has made clear on several occasions in Holy Scripture. He made this world and He has decided what He’s done with it.

God has given the Promised Land to the Jewish people as part of their eternal covenant.

We need to stop fighting against God’s expressed wishes, especially as He repeated them several times for us in His Holy Scripture. Rather, all believers Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish and Orthodox, need to get on board with, and support, God’s plan.

One clear series of Biblical references suffices (there are more, of course)...

” God said to Abram: “Go from your land ... to the land that I will show you.” (Genesis 12:1)

On that day, God made a covenant with Abram, saying: “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Chitties, Perizites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Gigashites and Yevusites.” (Genesis 15:18-21)

“And I will give to you and to your descendants after you.... all the land of Canaan as an eternal possession (!!!!-emphasis added) and I will be a God to them.” (Genesis 17:8)


(God is NOT a liar, nor an “Indian giver,” may I please be pardoned by all for use of that probably-Un-PC term.)

thanks, and blessings to all.


19 posted on 10/27/2016 12:10:52 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: ebb tide

Vatican II. And given that most modernists will agree with its change of course nothing you (nor pre-Vatican II saintly popes) say will matter. It’s a whole new religion and most have bought into it hook, line and sinker.


20 posted on 10/27/2016 2:38:29 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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