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Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics
The Federalist ^ | OCTOBER 10, 2016 | G. Shane Morris

Posted on 10/18/2016 3:08:25 PM PDT by Brookhaven

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To: Elsie
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321 posted on 10/23/2016 2:29:52 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Elsie
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322 posted on 10/23/2016 2:32:10 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Elsie
No. It doesn't have any maps in it either, and no Biblical Christian ever considered maps or the Apocrypha (esp the KJV Translators) to be God's preserved word. It was and they are considered only as REFERENCE MATERIALS.

Grow up!

323 posted on 10/23/2016 2:40:07 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Your Welcome:^)


324 posted on 10/23/2016 2:44:24 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Elsie

By the way, I sincerely hope that YOU keep replying, I have so many more wonderful “molehill” graphics to share with you and others.


325 posted on 10/23/2016 3:40:06 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Elsie
You're fighting the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, and God the Father, not me.

I point out that your throwing a large portion of the Old Testament into the garbage can is an outright denial that the Holy Spirit is a pefect part of the perfect Holy Trinity and rather than deal with that fact you attack me. Fine, have fun.

Keep yelling, Give us Barabbas and telling everyone that's just your way of following Christ.

It doesn't alter the fact that by throwing Scripture into the garbage you're denying the deity of the Holy Spirit and thereby, Jesus Christ and God the Father.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me, is against me : and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.
Matthew 12:31 Therefore I say to you : Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Matthew 12:32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him : but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

All you need is the faith of a mustard seed and that same Holy Spirit you blaspheme will show you the Way, the Truth, and the Light.

326 posted on 10/23/2016 4:11:05 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you are NOT inspired by the Holy Spirit to rewrite Scripture. You may even be guilty of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Yikes!
327 posted on 10/23/2016 5:53:25 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Rashputin; Elsie
Take it up with boatbums. She's the author of that argument that anyone who defends the perfection of the Holy Spirit doesn't even know what Christian means. Or is denying the Trinity (one God in three persons, all equally perfect, all one God) now all the rage among the anti-Catholic crew?

Wow. So, you're not only blaspheming the Holy Spirit but bearing false witness, too. Been to confession lately???

328 posted on 10/23/2016 6:14:49 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

If it really bothers you, just toss out the book of the Bible you think I rewrote and the problem is solved for you exactly the same way throwing those other books out of the Bible makes you happy by helping you hide from what you don’t want to see.


329 posted on 10/23/2016 6:26:27 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: WhatNot; PeterPrinciple; Elsie
Should we ignore the changes in the ENGLISH language since the 1600's that render some verses in the KJV losing something in the translation?

Where does it do that, you may ask? One example II Thessalonians 2:7, "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.". Now that term, "he who now letteth will let", is confusing to a modern English speaker since the word "let" now means "to allow". In newer translations, that verse is rendered in a way that makes sense. Such as:

New Living Translation

For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way.

English Standard Version

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.

Berean Study Bible

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way.

Berean Literal Bible

For the mystery of lawlessness is working already; there is only the one at present restraining it, until he might be gone out of the midst.

New American Standard Bible

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.

Even the NIV gets it right:

For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

That is why it is untrue that ONLY the KJV is the acceptable Bible version for English speakers. As long as we have manuscript copies in the SAME language as they were first written, we have a reliable resource for knowing what is or isn't a "good" translation. Add to that, the readily available online resources that compare versions, lexicons and concordances that show us the actual words in Hebrew or Greek, PLUS the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth and we really have what we need to know God's word.

Don't get me wrong, I love the KJV and it was THE version we studied in Bible college. Most of the verses and passages I STILL have committed to memory are from the KJV. It's just nice now to have all these additional resources to communicate God's truths to us.

330 posted on 10/23/2016 7:14:02 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: WhatNot
It doesn't have any maps in it either, and no Biblical Christian ever considered maps or the Apocrypha (esp the KJV Translators) to be God's preserved word.

Oh?

Then WHY did these perfect translators translating GOD's perfectly preserved words INCLUDE the Apocrypha in the 1611 bible?

331 posted on 10/23/2016 7:37:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WhatNot
By the way, I sincerely hope that YOU keep replying, I have so many more wonderful “molehill” graphics to share with you and others.

Oh; I will; for I await any logical answers to the host of questions that I've asked you in my replies.

332 posted on 10/23/2016 7:39:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
It doesn't alter the fact that by throwing Scripture into the garbage you're denying the deity of the Holy Spirit and thereby, Jesus Christ and God the Father.

Call no man Father is left in Catholic scripture; isn't it??

Yet Catholicism can spin this away with ease.

I'm not afraid of Rome's loosely packed strawmen.

333 posted on 10/23/2016 7:41:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
If it really bothers you, just toss out the book of the Bible you think I rewrote and the problem is solved for you exactly the same way throwing those other books out of the Bible makes you happy by helping you hide from what you don’t want to see.

If the way Rome teaches it's members to practice their faith is a bit on the iffy side; not to worry; for Mary will make yet another visit to Earthlings to get the CORRECT message out.

334 posted on 10/23/2016 7:43:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin

On neutral ground; I’ve just received the latest edition of National Graphic magazine.

It has a nice little article about nuns in Puebla Mexico.

The few pictures I saw intrigued me, so I looked in GoogleEarth to zoom in on this town.

I was stunned by the sheer beauty of the Catholic churches located there. Many 360 pictures of interiors.


335 posted on 10/23/2016 7:48:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
That is why it is untrue that ONLY the KJV is the acceptable Bible version for English speakers.


 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


336 posted on 10/23/2016 7:50:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
If an 8th grade education is good enough for the Amish; it oughta be good enough for you; too!
337 posted on 10/23/2016 7:51:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin; WhatNot
LOL, are you really that dense? The Septuagint has more books than the KJV. Therefore, either the Holy Spirit wasn't protecting the Word of God when He allowed those books to remain in the Bible for 1800 years, or those books should still be in the Bible meaning anyone who insists only the subset is inspired is saying outright that the Holy Spirit allowed error to remain in His Word for eighteen hundred years.

Talk about DENSE! Not only do you IGNORE the facts repeatedly given to you about the Septuagint (LXX), why don't you ever answer the questions posed to you about it? You know, like the one about the LXX actually containing 15 additional books yet your Catholic church only kept 7 and threw 8 of them in the garbage??? Don't YOU have a "subset", too?

338 posted on 10/23/2016 7:52:36 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
Now that term, "he who now letteth will let", is confusing to a modern English speaker since the word "let" now means "to allow".

Nice try, but you should check your Etymology on that one. It meant then what it means now.

let (v.)

Old English lætan (Northumbrian leta) "to allow; to leave behind, depart from; leave undone; bequeath," also "to rent, put to rent or hire" (class VII strong verb; past tense let, leort, past participle gelæten), from Proto-Germanic *letan (source also of Old Saxon latan, Old Frisian leta, Dutch laten, Old High German lazan, German lassen, Gothic letan "to leave, let"),

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339 posted on 10/23/2016 7:56:58 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Rashputin
If it really bothers you, just toss out the book of the Bible you think I rewrote and the problem is solved for you exactly the same way throwing those other books out of the Bible makes you happy by helping you hide from what you don’t want to see.

No, just this part:

boatbums looked upon the fruit on the tree of Self and Self Alone, it was fair to the eyes, and delightful to behold: and she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, then admonished those who had not eaten the fruit of the tree saying, Whosoever defends the perfection all three members of the Holy Trinity is not Christian.

Do you think the Holy Spirit inspired you to write that mangled Genesis 3:6 version? (hint...He didn't)

340 posted on 10/23/2016 8:15:25 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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