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If We Reject Trump, We May Be Inviting Persecution
The Stream ^ | October 5, 2016 | John Zmirak

Posted on 10/07/2016 1:16:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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John Zmirak is a Senior Editor at The Stream and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism.
1 posted on 10/07/2016 1:16:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think there is any doubt that Hillary’s justices will declare open war on Christianity.

Look for mainstream Christians to be jailed (or worse) for their hate speech.

I believe all of this has been prophesied for the last day, but that doesn’t make me any happier to see it coming to fruition.


2 posted on 10/07/2016 1:19:48 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only the persecuted allow themselves to be persecuted.


3 posted on 10/07/2016 1:19:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

May be inviting persecution?

I think you can count on it.


4 posted on 10/07/2016 1:22:26 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: SkyDancer

And yet there are people who will pray for persecution so that the world will “know who the real Christians are”.


5 posted on 10/07/2016 1:22:35 PM PDT by KStorm (Mere geographical location is what makes some people Americans.)
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To: comebacknewt

I think that would be the beginning of another revolution....


6 posted on 10/07/2016 1:24:10 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: KStorm

Well we Jews were the first.


7 posted on 10/07/2016 1:24:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great article.

A very traditional priest friend of ours made much the same case.


8 posted on 10/07/2016 1:38:52 PM PDT by Claud
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its first duty, after faithfulness, is self-preservation.

The author needs to read the bible. Jesus said he that tries to save his life will lose it. Christ said he will build His church and that the gates of Hell won't prevail. it's not our job to work for self-preservation. Our job is to believe on the name of Jesus, preach the gospel and to love one another. And that love may lead to persecution and death.

Persecution is coming to the USA regardless of the next election.

9 posted on 10/07/2016 1:40:24 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given that the alternative is a criminal, a traitor, an accessory to rape, etc., Trump looks pretty good.


10 posted on 10/07/2016 1:43:55 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: aimhigh
No, he's right. He said it's our first duty after faithfulness. In other words, don't put yourself in harm's way if there's another alternative that's still faithful to God. Martyrdom is when all the non-sinful alternatives are gone.
11 posted on 10/07/2016 1:47:36 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: aimhigh

This kind of doctrine has led to an institutionalist view of Christianity. Whatever else you do, preserve the institution.

The biblical view is to make hay while the sun shines, because sunny weather will not be continuous — and yet there is always a guarantee that it will be sufficient because Jesus, by virtue of keeping His promise, won’t permit the church to go extinct.

If an Age of Trump comes, Christendom would be exceeding wise to use this also as an age of evangelism, rather than as an age of lolling back and relaxing.


12 posted on 10/07/2016 1:56:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Campion

But there is no such thing as “duty after faithfulness.” Faithfulness is IT.


13 posted on 10/07/2016 1:57:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: aimhigh

It’s still our duty to protect, as we can, our fellow Christians.

We may not be of the world, but we are in it. God doesn’t like suicide, either, and failing to do our best to get the best man in is the equivalent.


14 posted on 10/07/2016 2:02:16 PM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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To: SkyDancer

I know at least one professed and sincere atheist who, of course, doesn’t believe there is any God but who also believes that a necessity for a free and prosperous nation is a general belief in, not just some deity, but the God of the Bible. He says he would not discourage belief except in his own children and wouldn’t be a fanatic with his kids.


15 posted on 10/07/2016 2:06:32 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: chesley

I think that furnishing refuge for them should be a paramount consideration in all of Christendom with its various parts.

That would be one reason why we would want a sane America that doesn’t footsie with terrorists.


16 posted on 10/07/2016 2:06:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: chesley

But there have been no “territory promises” made to Christians. If a territory becomes inhospitable, and staying there makes no sense from an evangelistic point of view, then I’d take that as a sign from God “Move on, My sons and daughters. That may actually make My judgment on the area easier to carry out.”


17 posted on 10/07/2016 2:08:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As I have said in the past, if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency the only comfort that I have is that when she starts rounding up people and sending them to concentration camps many of the people that voted for her as well as members of the Ministry of Propaganda will be included in the groups that are sent to concentration camps. She has proven that people that are close to her are not immune.


18 posted on 10/07/2016 2:10:12 PM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: arthurus

Sounds like a conflicted soul; I pray of course the Lord has mercy upon him and removes any cause of doubt before he leaves the world.

But I’ve also seen atheists and agnostics confess that Christianity makes sense for the well being of a society.


19 posted on 10/07/2016 2:11:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: seawolf101

Your and my comfort in all cases should be in the Lord.

My gut spiritual sense — and I’ve been mistaken sometimes — is that Trump does have the divine wind at his back at this point. Too many things are going right, even though we may be hard pressed to explain it. Hillary is the standard shuck, jive, and lies. It is not Hillary or Trump who is being put to the test here; it is America.

But I hope neither I nor anybody else in Christendom would make the mistake of imputing the credit to Trump rather than to that divine wind. Trump, if he wins, will be how God will have helped us at this juncture.


20 posted on 10/07/2016 2:17:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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