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To: editor-surveyor
You ever going to answer ANY questions asked of you? like:

BTW...Scripture tells us Abraham was saved by faith. How did he call upon the name of the Lord when God waited until Moses (400 years AFTER Abraham) was leading Israel out of Egypt to reveal it (I AM, THAT I AM)?

219 posted on 10/24/2016 7:17:46 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
Seems like a LOT of folks are wanting to know the NAME of those they tangle with.


Genesis 32:22-32   New International Version (NIV)

Jacob Wrestles With God

22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. 24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[b] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,[c] and he was limping because of his hip. 32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched near the tendon.

222 posted on 10/25/2016 4:31:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

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You are dodging what Faith is.

If you do not believe that Torah is Yehova’s instructions for righteousness, it is impossible for you to even have faith.

Paul made that clear in chapters 3 and 4 of his epistle to the Hebrews. He declared that the gospel he preached is the exact same gospel that was delivered to Moses, and that those that were lost in the desert simply lacked belief therein.

How much plainer can it be?

If you deny Torah, you have nothing left for faith to be about. If you don’t believe the plan Yehova delivered to his sheep was adequate, you are in the same shape that the unbelievers that yearned to return to Egypt were in.
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225 posted on 10/25/2016 8:18:57 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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