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Shock: Eucharist stolen from New York City church
Aletelia ^ | September 30, 2016 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 09/30/2016 2:50:58 PM PDT by NYer

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To: tommix2

“Eucharist,” which comes from the Greek word for “thanksgiving” (eu-good, charis-gift) refers to the Catholic belief that a priest changes natural bread and wine into the actual Body and Blood of Jesus Christ (transsubstantiation).

This takes place during the Mass, our religious service, and afterward, it is common for pieces of transsubstantiated bread (hosts) to be kept in a dish (ciborium) in a locked container (tabernacle) for distribution at other times and as a focus for prayer.

Removing the consecrated hosts from the tabernacle is a sacrilege ... and it would be even if you don’t believe in anything to do with the Christian religion, just as attacking Jewish religious articles or Hindu historic sites is an attack on other people as believers.

One possible motive for the robbery is to use the consecrated bread in Satanic ritual. Another is possibility is the belief that tabernacle and its contents have significant monetary value, which is usually not the case.


21 posted on 09/30/2016 4:42:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
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To: tommix2
The outward appearance of the Eucharist consists of small wafers of unleavened bread and of sacramental wine. We Catholics believe that this bread and wine, while retaining that outward appearance, become literally the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ to be consumed by baptized Catholics who have continued in a state of grace (no unconfessed and unforgiven mortal sins on their souls).

Sacraments are a means for the transmission of God's graces. They strengthen us morally and sustain us in the face of a world which often repudiates G-d's will. There are seven sacraments: Baptism, Penance (or confession), the Holy Eucharist, Confirmation (which has some parallels to the Bar Mitzvah), Matrimony, Holy Orders (by which priests are ordained), Extreme Unction (the final annointing of those in danger of death).

Thank you for your respectful concern. May G-d bless you and yours!

22 posted on 09/30/2016 4:43:42 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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To: tommix2
Thanks, tommix, for this question.

The Eucharist (also called the Blessed Sacrament) refers to the elements of bread and wine, which by consecration have become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. We believe this to be a true change of substance, or "transubstantiation."

What this means is that these elements which still have the appearance of bread and wine, are truly and "substantially" the whole and living Christ: Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.

(Don't ask me how: we don't know!)

Anyone who sees it this way, will see that these are the most sacred objects in the entire Universe.

Those who don't see it this way, must still understand that this has profound significance for believers in Christ.

Thieves who would break open a tabernacle to get at the gold-plated vessels of the altar, are committing a very great crime. If they do it for the purpose of desecration, as some Satanists have been known to do, this is infinitely worse: an Abomination.

The souls of those who did this, are in horrifying danger. That's why we are praying for them.

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23 posted on 09/30/2016 4:48:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well, there goes the Catholic Caucus designation once again.


24 posted on 09/30/2016 5:39:24 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Cicero

Unconsecrated hosts are never put in the tabernacle.


25 posted on 09/30/2016 5:39:39 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Tax-chick

A lot of members of the underclass think the tabernacle is where a church keeps its gold and money.


26 posted on 09/30/2016 5:42:15 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

I find that completely believable.


27 posted on 09/30/2016 5:43:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
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To: Tax-chick; Cicero; NYer; Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; Kolokotronis

Some of the Orthodox pre and post-Communion prayers speak of the Eucharist as being a “fire consuming”.

Pray for the miscreants, that they might repent and be spared the consuming eternal fire.


28 posted on 09/30/2016 6:12:16 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: lightman

When I teach the bilingual supplemental Sacraments class, I refer to the Eucharist (and the Crucifixion, which it re-presents) as the detonation of a nuclear bomb.


29 posted on 09/30/2016 6:42:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
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To: Tax-chick

Aye, it is the re-ordering of the universe; and we pray that such re-ordering would begin, continue, and reach its perfection in us.


30 posted on 09/30/2016 6:52:43 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: lightman

The nuclear bomb image works in a lot of ways. For example, during a nuclear fission event, time is distorted (demonstrated by Dr. Feinmann), so that when we say the Eucharist is happening “once for all,” right now ... that’s laws-of-physics accurate, because “time” is so complex that there’s no real point even in discussing it unless you have a PhD in Physics.

And when you go to Eucharistic adoration or to Mass, if you’re in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament, the “nuclear radiation” is working on you at the cellular level, even if you have no idea that it’s going on.


31 posted on 09/30/2016 6:57:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
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To: Tax-chick

The Prayer of St. Symeon the Metaphrastes
(The Translator)

O You Who willingly grant me Your Flesh for food, You are a fire, and You consume the unworthy! Burn me not, O my Maker, But rather pass through my composite members Into all my joints, my innermost core, and my heart.

Burn up the thorns of all my transgressions; Purify my soul; sanctify my thoughts; Make firm my legs, as well as my bones; Illumine the clarity of my five senses; Nail down the whole of me by Your fear. Ever overshadow, watch, and guard me from every soul-destroying act and word.

Purify, cleanse, and train me; Adorn, elucidate, and illuminate me; Show me to be the dwelling of Your Spirit alone, And no longer the dwelling of sin;

So that, as Your house, by the entrance of Communion As Fire, every evildoer and passion may flee, I bring to You intercessors, all the sanctified, The captains of the bodiless angels, Your Forerunner, the wise apostles, And to them I add Your pure, immaculate Mother. Receive, O my compassionate Christ, their petitions, And make of your hired servant a child of light!

For You are alone our sanctification, O Good One, and the brightness of our souls; And to You, as is fitting, as our God and Master, Do we all ascribe glory from day to day.


32 posted on 09/30/2016 6:59:04 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: lightman

Oh, that’s very nice!


33 posted on 09/30/2016 7:00:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
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To: Tax-chick

3 Priests were killed Mexico last week, 15 in the last 4 years. Satan is alive and well.


34 posted on 09/30/2016 7:18:00 PM PDT by tiki
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To: defconw

We have cameras in our parish, the bishop encouraged it after a bomb was set.


35 posted on 09/30/2016 7:19:48 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Rashputin; NYer; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In TSR’s defense, I think he meant his question as “was a Muslim involved” at least that’s the way I took it.


36 posted on 09/30/2016 7:27:57 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Tax-chick; tommix2

That is a well phrased answer, Tax-chick. I hope all is well with you.


37 posted on 09/30/2016 7:34:43 PM PDT by MortMan (Moderate muslims, please identify the specific prohibitions against violent jihad in the koran.)
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To: Ann Archy
OMG!!!! Protestants have NO idea of how awful this is.

I know it is an insult to Catholics who believe that the consecrated wafers are literally the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ. Those who would desecrate the practices do so in order to appall, irritate and horrify Catholics.

My question is two-fold. Why do you let them think they have "captured" Jesus and can do all manner of evil TO him? And, don't you think Jesus wouldn't allow Himself to be desecrated by evildoers or mischief makers? Is he powerless to "extract" himself in time?

38 posted on 09/30/2016 8:22:43 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: kaehurowing

Oh please


39 posted on 09/30/2016 8:25:07 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: FourtySeven; Rashputin

That’s how I meant it.


40 posted on 09/30/2016 8:28:16 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables.)
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