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To: chuckles; ealgeone; boatbums; Gamecock; MamaB; MHGinTN
You made your question generic. Not every prayer is equal. There are people that never go to church, have sin in their life,and certainly aren't baptized in the Spirit, asked to pray for people daily.

What a bunch of nonsense. GOD never put the requirement to be what Pentecostals call *baptized in the Holy Spirit* on a person to receive answers to prayer.

I'll tell you what. When it comes to people suffering and struggling, there's not more judgmental and condemning a group towards the afflicted as Pentecostals.

They are absolutely brutal towards the suffering and lack so much compassion. They just sit there and without knowing the other person's circumstances, have the situation all figured out and have no reservation about giving their opinion of something they know NOTHING about.

Pentecostals do NOT have a corner on the understanding God market.

Far from it.

And that is being demonstrated right here on this thread.

Nor are there grades of prayer.

Our prayer isn't effective because of the amount of faith we have, how big our faith is, but rather how big the God we have that faith in is.

That's why Jesus tells us that if we had even really tiny faith, the size of a mustard seed, we could move mountains.

Pentecostals have just about the most screwed up theology I have encountered.

People forget why God lifted the hedge he had around Job to allow Satan to ravage him. If you go to the end of the book, you find that Job had a pride problem. He left God out of the equation and decided he was good. he paid his tithe, lived out the Word of God, was pious in his walk, but in the end, God asked where was he when God set the boundaries of the land and oceans, ect.

And just where in Scripture does it tell us that the reason Job went through what he did was because of pride? Show us the chapter and verses.

Or is that simply another assumption made by you without any Scriptural support?

59 posted on 09/28/2016 4:18:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; chuckles; ealgeone; boatbums; Gamecock; MamaB; MHGinTN

**People forget why God lifted the hedge he had around Job to allow Satan to ravage him.**

Job 1:1 In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil.

Job 1:8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

I guess we need to get some white-out and delete these verses from the inspired Word of God.


60 posted on 09/28/2016 5:49:35 AM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: metmom
I'm not Pentecostal. I'm non denominational and believe what Scripture says. Just read your comments to me and see what I see. You are a cruel judgmental poor excuse for someone trying to communicate God's word to another person. I clearly gave Scripture to you showing Paul, felt Acts 19:1-7 the disciples baptized by John the Baptist needed something more than what they had. I speak in tongues so it's difficult to tell me it's fake. It's in plain language in the Bible that they all spoke in tongues. I was just trying to comment on the blasphemous cartoon that everyone here feels was "funny". I also showed you Scripture that the only unforgivable sin was to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. It's not fake, it's not from demons, and it is Scriptural and you make fun of it at your peril.

And about Job,....Read Job 32:1. Now let that sink in for a minute. Then start to read about Elihu from there to the end of the book, paying particular attention to 34:36-37. Now Job 38:1, The Lord speaks to Job from a whirlwind. Go to the end of the book while God lectures Job. The point of the story was Job THOUGHT he was righteous. His friends THOUGHT he was righteous. But God didn't like it. God is righteous. There is none good, no not one.

I teach Sunday school and have for over 20 years. I have home Bible study every week in my home for others that want to come. You know absolutely NOTHING about me and my life yet you make judgements about me on a keyboard 1000 miles away.

No one is forcing you to speak in tongues, but I was just defending those that do.

71 posted on 09/28/2016 1:56:38 PM PDT by chuckles
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