[Mr. Douglas]

He didn’t say that, did He?

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What other scripture would there be when He said it.

If I said, in 1935, that all cars had manual transmissions, was I talking about cars made today?

And the new testament is a collection of books. The old testament is scripture. The new testament includes a bunch of letters, a vision (revelation), a documentary account of the apostles up to a certain point and the life and times and teaching of Christ (the gospels).

It is extremely valuable teaching and very important, but it holds a lot of information that was specific to the culture (e.g. women talking in church) and other such stuff - at one point Paul even says, “this is me talking, not God”.

That last part is important because the clear implication is that the rest of the time it IS God talking. And I believe that.

So I see the bible as VERY important in expanding my knowledge of God and improving my relationship with Him and my fellow man (the only two things that really matter in the end), but I see it as a collection of what I mentioned above. I don’t worship it. If I had to choose between prayer and the bible, I’d choose prayer.

[Gamecock]

The difference here is that He is transcendent. You aren’t.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “And the new testament is a collection of books.” <<

No, the “New Testament” is the “Old Testament,” Renewed in Yeshua’s sinless blood.

A testament is a contract between two or more parties.

If you are not a part of the covenant that Yeshua confirms with his ancient assembly Yisrael on the day of Trumpets, you will not have a place in the New Jerusalem.
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[editor-surveyor]

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>> “If I had to choose between prayer and the bible, I’d choose prayer.” <<

If you didn’t have the scriptures that Yeshua and his apostles had when they ministered in the synagogues how would you know whom to pray to, and in whose name that prayer was authorized.

Yeshua said “it is written” as often as he said “go and sin no more.”

You could not know what sin even is without Torah, our “instruction in righteousness.”
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[Seven_0]

And the new testament is a collection of books. The old testament is scripture. The new testament includes a bunch of letters, a vision (revelation), a documentary account of the apostles up to a certain point and the life and times and teaching of Christ (the gospels).

The Bible reveals God's character to us. If God is the author, then we should expect his work to be perfect. A perfection that exceeds any standard we imagine. God is like that you know. Perhaps the following example will cause you to modify your definition of "scripture."

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

I believe that the word "scripture" is always a reference to Christ. "Search the scriptures for in them ye think ye have eternal life and they are they which testify of me." (John 5:39) That could explain how the scripture preached to Abraham before the Old Testament was written.

John 19:36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.

Indeed, Scripture cannot be broken.